At this point, the only differences that can be discerned are in operating system (open source with propietory parts versus closed source and licensing model with ODM modifications key to differentation), and availability. But its pretty clear that they are going for similar markets.

HTC might get a few more looks because they are aiming more for those who are iPhone-fans, and then also grab developers who already are familiar with the MS development environment. Devices like this and a few other WM devices are going to blurr the line between smartphone and tabletPC/UMPC all the more though, and that will work out great for end-users.

Maemo will have to do some work on the UI side if they see this and other devices as competitors.

EDIT: the HTC HD will have a 562Mhz CPU, not way faster, but faster than what we have seen from IT devices so far. The key is to understand that with mobile devices, fast CPUs are nothing if the system cannot take advanage of it. WinMobile needs a fast CPU for many tasks because of how its built. If HTC is keeping the ability of the process to scale, then that max speed rating is just max, not consistent.

That's an ARM11 562MHz, significantly slower than the 600MHz Cortex A8 in the OMAP3430.

Thanks for the clarificaiton in the raw speeds; I'd neglected to look at the chipsets that would be used for the next IT beyond branding names.

Nowadays, apparently. Do you saturate the connection though? Is it supported on all the ROMs/kernels? Are there CF 3G cards?

Interesting. That does open possibilities. Apparently the SL6000 didn't sell well though. My IWL 2200 CF (used on Zaurus) wasn't able to do WPA2 either, but I worked around that. If your device doesn't support WPA2 and you build your own *BSD based AP you can add a authpf(8) + ipsec(4) (or userland VPN daemon). It shouldn't be too hard to make this work together with Linux & IPTables + VPN/IPsec, or (Open)Solaris & IPF + VPN/IPsec. In the future, this might be useful when you're using 3G which provides no encryption. Instead of a VPN at home I'll just use a VPN on a 100 mbit server in a local serverpark though; less lag.

WPA does not, as far as I know, need hardware support in the wi-fi chipset/card -- it's a feature of the wi-fi driver. So the SL-6000 should be able to support WPA, with the right software.

Hi,

Interesting reading here, and I assume this thread is far from over too.

I am new to the platform having just bought A N800 last month and am really enjoying learning from the ground up having no linux experience prior.

Now, If I had been aware of the changes with the addition of the hspa radio that has A lot of members riled up, I may have avoided this and gone with A netbook or similar item.

If I had done this, I would have missed out on A great device, promising platform and lots of excitement over learning A new system.

I hate cell phones and the horse they rode in on too.

But, based on comments made by Texrat and AJWright, the new addition is more of A move from traditional cell phone service and more towards using that capability over the internet and locking out the cellular service providers now that are greedy b**tards.

If this is accurate, I am very interested in seeing where it goes.

I took A leap with my N800 purchase and am prepared to take the leaap here too.

My needs have been better Multimedia capabilities, mostly speed and more formats.

I browse the Net, read books, stream video, read the occasional comic book, listen to music so my needs are more to address those needs.

I am seeing the addition that is being hotly debated here as being A more inclusive item than An exclusionary one.

Guess only time will tell.

As I said above, I am A noob to the format but have seen other platforms not change and become obsolete as A result.

No one can sit here, and foresee the future and tell whether it is A good change or not but having A closed mind will surely limit the chances of it succeeding.

I am going into this, phone aversion noted, with an open mind as I really am enjoying the Platform.

Now for the dissenters to rip me apart.


David

Most don't mind the phones, its the $$$ and carriers that are a trip.

Its not so much locking out the carriers that needs to happen, nor that I am supposing. Its more the idea of leveling the playing field between manufacturers and carriers towards a market model that will enable manufacturers to make more of a return on their work than what carriers allow right now. Nokia has the brand-reputation to possibly pull this off short term, but long term other chips need to fall. Their open source play is indicitave of something more long range, that hopefully doesn't look like the castle they seem to be attempting to take down.

The next 5-7 years (barring the rest of the predicted future) should be interesting in mobile/mobile-life.

I only want to rip you apart for capitalizing your articles (A and An).

It's hard to read you post. My internal reading voice sounds silly because it emphasizes in the wrong places.

Au contraire, the Maemo Software team is ramping up offices in Mountain View and there are many positions open.

http://yannickpellet.blogspot.com/20...alifornia.html

...and the right hardware.

WPA is useless. You want WPA2.

wpa_supplicant has to support the hardware. It doesn't support Orinoco or the on-board WLAN which uses wlan_ng driver. Here is a 2004 review of Zaurus SL6000. The C-series have a clamshell. If you open it the normal way you get screen + keyboard. You can turn the screen around and put the backside of the screen on the keyboard, making it smaller and stylus-only. You can rotate the screen since it supports rotation (manually; not with accelerator). the C-series don't have on-board WLAN or BT so for any wireless functionality you'd need a CF card whereas it only has 1 CF slot. Not nice IMO.