Originally Posted by switch-hitter

Your total lack of comprehension is really quite remarkable.



You do know Windows Phone 7 was a touch UI underpinned by the 'old', 'outdated', 'prehistoric' Windows CE, right? Not nearly as 'new and nascent' as you imagined, huh?



You're getting terribly excited at discovering NOKIA pre-Elop made an unfathomable decision about which UI layer to use on top of Symbian. I imagine most everybody else here already knew that. Not only did NOKIA have S90 and Hildon but when the Symbian Foundation was formed in 2008 Motorola and Sony Ericsson contributed UIQ and NTT DoCoMo contributed MOAP(S). As I've explained to you before Symbian had touch support built in right back to the days it was called EPOC32 and ran on Psion PDAs. Who knows why NOKIA's management decided S60 would remain the primary UI layer, it's hard to imagine what the logic might have been.

Anyhow, like most of the criticism of Symbian (the UI, the browser, the email client, etc...) this issue had nothing to do with Symbian per se. Symbian could have coped perfectly well with a high quality touch UI if NOKIA had only provided it with one.

But guess what? NOKIA did eventually get the gig - they bought Qt. The Qt framework was to be added to Symbian^3 and recommended as the primary target for developers. Symbian^4 would have a whole new touch UI based on QWidget. Not only that but Qt would provide a common development framework for all NOKIA's devices irrespective of OS. The fact Qt was a superset of C++ also meant it could be used to target other platforms that weren't NOKIA's too, which could make NOKIA's SDK the first port of call for any developers who wanted to target multiple platforms from one codebase.

Finally, NOKIA had a top notch plan - a high quality touch UI, a great cross-platform development framework, the SDK was in beta and shaping up nicely, they even had Python bindings in development, then... just as their new strategy is reaching the point it could bear fruit, they revert to type and do something unfathomably stupid again. In fact exclusively adopting Windows Phone was a whole new level of stupidity.

Originally Posted by daperl

Lumiadork's motto:

"I don't know what the f*ck I'm talking about. Ever."

Originally Posted by felipec

Don't feed the troll.

Everybody knows Elop drove Nokia to the ground... I mean, everybody that lives in reality.

Whatever Elop had planned for Nokia (sell it to Microsoft), it's clear it didn't pan out.