I really don't see what Nokia think they have to gain by lying to people :-(

Well, see, normally, I'd not have paid it any attention. Having worked in a number of support departments in the past, I know what it's like. But having a consistent date being used makes me think there's more to this than just blind invention.

My other theory as to where the 9th came from is that it was a case hf chinese whispers, i.e. it was supposed to be the 19th, but someone somewhere typo'd or misheard the internal communication, and this is the resulting mess that came out of it.

What will Nokia tell us on the 19th of November? "We're sorry, but try again the 29th of November"?

I'm not bothered about the waiting, I'm bothered about intentionally being mislead by them
nobody can tell me that Nokia did not know it would not ship today when they was telling us up until Friday "yes sir we will ship on the 9th".
shipping does not get cancelled on the day or working day before this decision was made before yet it never stopped them misleading us since they ****ed up there system and cancelled our orders before making us order again. they intentionally mislead us so we would authorise the reorder after they messed up our original order.

Well thats ruined my plans for my week off. I was going to spend it getting aquainted with my new toy. Now i'll have to find something else to do.....

I don't think it was intentional misleading, I think that either someone screwed up and got the date wrong, or the delay has been done to try mitigate any possible bad press over the charger recalls stuff.

Perhaps I'm not being jaded enough, but I think that deliberately doing this would be much worse for them in the longer run.

Uh oh,

I am seeing an algorithm here:

9, 19, 29....

End of the month shipping and early December arrival it is!

I guarantee it!

Did you all REALLY believe a sales rep? They are about as distanced from logistics as you can get. We need a Nokia logisitics
person or product marketing person. All others are probably going to be bunk with information.

That's why I am sticking with D3LL. Nov 9th or Nov 19th or Dec 9th... does not matter because nokia is keeping tight lips on the release date.

What if they go bankrupt? before shipping date

if n900 was released nobody would be talking about the chargers.
releasing good news to cover up bad is well used stunt by corporations and government's, so delay is nothing to do with bad press from chargers imo.