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2006-05-07
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#11
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Originally Posted by kutibah
hmmm, you're right.
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2006-05-07
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Now aren't you glad you are not running Windows Mobile? Surfing the internet was but impossible with Windows Mobile. No comparison to the 770 display.
My Dell AXIM now sits in the dresser drawer.
My Dell AXIM now sits in the dresser drawer.
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2006-05-08
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@ Philadelphia, PA
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Some observations:
Google Reader works as expected.
On Flickr, I can't edit te titles, add pictures to photosets, or do much of anything really in the Opera browser, but minimo let's me do all that. The thing that bothers me is it is possible to integrate these changes into the opera browser but they must have specifically decided not to include features. Why? Stability? Last night I edited te titles to 37 new photos, and also added each one to photosets I created. The browser didn't bat an eye. It might even be a hair quicker than my PC at work which only has IE.
A few minor modifications would make this the browser to beat on the 770:
If the keyboard didn't pop up everytime a new page is loading, and minimized when typing the (enter) key.
If thre was a way to toggle between full screen mode back out to "regular", what is that called anyway. I think this is a limitation of running a program from xterm, not the SW. The SW can certainly do it, but the hacky nature of running minimo on linux will leave some things to be desired until this app can be further modified. This is simply a matter of mapping a HWkey on the device to toggle this behavior. However I haven't found anything yet in any minimo files that sets HW keys as easily as input.ini in the opera folders.
Google Reader works as expected.
On Flickr, I can't edit te titles, add pictures to photosets, or do much of anything really in the Opera browser, but minimo let's me do all that. The thing that bothers me is it is possible to integrate these changes into the opera browser but they must have specifically decided not to include features. Why? Stability? Last night I edited te titles to 37 new photos, and also added each one to photosets I created. The browser didn't bat an eye. It might even be a hair quicker than my PC at work which only has IE.
A few minor modifications would make this the browser to beat on the 770:
If the keyboard didn't pop up everytime a new page is loading, and minimized when typing the (enter) key.
If thre was a way to toggle between full screen mode back out to "regular", what is that called anyway. I think this is a limitation of running a program from xterm, not the SW. The SW can certainly do it, but the hacky nature of running minimo on linux will leave some things to be desired until this app can be further modified. This is simply a matter of mapping a HWkey on the device to toggle this behavior. However I haven't found anything yet in any minimo files that sets HW keys as easily as input.ini in the opera folders.
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2006-05-08
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@ Philadelphia, PA
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So, is anybody able or willing to hack minimo a little to optimise it for the 770? It would be really great to be able to use it in fullscreen mode, and launch it from the extras menu on the home screen. It would also be nice if the menu buttons on the left and right bottom of the screen were accessible in fullscreen mode. besides that, and the fact that bookmarks never seem to stay (always comes up empty when opening the program, although it remembers all the previously entered addresses), it does just a good if not better job of web browsing than opera's app.
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2006-05-08
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Originally Posted by kutibah
Go here:
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool...4.3-13_arm.deb
Download the arm package and put it in the root of your memory card. Use the command:
dpkg -x /media/mmc1/libstdc++6-0_3.4.3-13_arm.deb /
Make sure you have minimo installed. Then use the "mv" command to move the 2 directories that it makes to the Minimo directory: /var/lib/install/usr/lib/minimo
After all that, you'll need to type this in Xterm everytime you want to launch minimo:
cd /var/lib/install/usr/lib/minimo/
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.
/var/lib/install/usr/lib/minimo# export DISPLAY=:0
/var/lib/install/usr/lib/minimo# ./minimo
Or, you can use the autoscript which was stated above.
I am so lame. I apologize for the idiocy of my questions,
but, here goes:
I ran the dpkg command successfully from xterm on the libstdk .deb placed on my mmc. That worked fine, but I can't find any resulting files,
and, even if I can,
can you help me with the mv command specifically- i.e. how to place the resulting files from the dpkg of libstdk .deb in the minimo folder (which I installed via ai)
I am an educator who would be able to use my nokia at the workplace if I had minimo to get on the special sites I need.....
Don't know linux (yet) but I hate windows with a passion and am LOVING my 770.
Also, will minimo work if I have a swap going on?
Thanks in advance for any kindness thrown my way!
dcarter
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2006-05-08
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Originally Posted by dcarter
If ran successfully, there will be a new usr folder and a new share folder I believe. Think of a deb as an elaborate zip file for right now. There are paths in this file that will result in folders being created where you ran it. In normal operation this helps the documentation be installed in the documentation folder, the application binary in the application binary section, and so forth.I am so lame. I apologize for the idiocy of my questions,
but, here goes:
I ran the dpkg command successfully from xterm on the libstdk .deb placed on my mmc. That worked fine, but I can't find any resulting files,
and, even if I can,
can you help me with the mv command specifically- i.e. how to place the resulting files from the dpkg of libstdk .deb in the minimo folder (which I installed via ai)
You will find the two files in ./usr/bin I believe. Once you have located them it will be:
mv ./libstdc++.so.60 /var/lib/install/usr/lib/minimo/libstdc++.so.6
mv ./libstdc++.so.60.0.3 /var/lib/install/usr/lib/minimo/
mv is called: mv frompath topath
So in the first example, the file is being renamed as it is moved to another directory. And in the second, we are simply moving the file to a new directory so there is no need to have the filename in topath.
* FYI - There are implicit and explicit ways to refer to objects (files/folders/links/etc) in the filesystem. The last command could have been called a few different ways and still work. I prefer explicit because it leaves no room for error when working with important objects.
I am an educator who would be able to use my nokia at the workplace if I had minimo to get on the special sites I need.....
Don't know linux (yet) but I hate windows with a passion and am LOVING my 770.
Also, will minimo work if I have a swap going on?
Thanks in advance for any kindness thrown my way!
dcarter
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2006-05-08
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Just noticed that kutibah's post is installing the deb into / rather than ./ or /media/mmc1 (look at the topath). This of course means that the files have been installed into the root of your filesystem. rather than your memory card. Look for the usr folder there.
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2006-05-09
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@ Philadelphia, PA
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Just another quick comment. Since i'm pretty new to linux I wasn't sure if I could name a script just a single letter, but I can. So I took the runminimo script from above and mv'd it to just m. So now I launch xterm, type m and hit enter, and minimo begins to load. Someone mentioned creating a symbolic link to make a menu item in the extras folder to make launching the app even easier, anyone know how to do this?
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2006-05-13
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Originally Posted by jayholler
yeap So, is anybody able or willing to hack minimo a little to optimise it for the 770?
I amafter reading up all comments on my blog and here (thanks you all), I summarized a minimal list of tasks to make minimo 016 (or forth ) more pratical, suitable and user friendly for the 770:
* 770 hardware key support (including un/fullscreen mode, zomming in/out)
* command line options (including launching it in fullscreen mode)
* custom css (fitting it better into our 800x480)
* static link of libstdc++ (avoiding external .deb)
* make the virtual keyboard shows up/hide according to html forms' focus in/out events
* adapt firefox prompts (alert etc) to our screen size
* add an icon to launch it from extra-menu
do I miss something ?
btw, great feedback jay
thanks
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2006-05-13
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Originally Posted by gultig
If ran successfully, there will be a new usr folder and a new share folder I believe. Think of a deb as an elaborate zip file for right now. There are paths in this file that will result in folders being created where you ran it. In normal operation this helps the documentation be installed in the documentation folder, the application binary in the application binary section, and so forth.
In *nix (linux/unix/etc) you will find that the directory that you are currently in is represented as a dot (.). So if you see the path ./folder it is referencing a folder found in the directory that you are currently in, whereas the path /folder is referring to a folder located at the base or root of the system ('c:\' if you will).
You will find the two files in ./usr/bin I believe. Once you have located them it will be:
mv ./libstdc++.so.60 /var/lib/install/usr/lib/minimo/libstdc++.so.6
mv ./libstdc++.so.60.0.3 /var/lib/install/usr/lib/minimo/
mv is called: mv frompath topath
So in the first example, the file is being renamed as it is moved to another directory. And in the second, we are simply moving the file to a new directory so there is no need to have the filename in topath.
* FYI - There are implicit and explicit ways to refer to objects (files/folders/links/etc) in the filesystem. The last command could have been called a few different ways and still work. I prefer explicit because it leaves no room for error when working with important objects.
Quite frankly, this release is not there yet. Antonio has been working on this for the last bit, and there is quite some way to go. But seeing as he's even checking in on posts while he is on his vacation, this could take no time at all.
Don't know.
You're welcome.
DUDE! It worked!!!
Thanks for your help- I think I am getting the hang of non-GUI os manipulation, and I LIKE iT!!
It seems to crash if I try random sites, but if I browse off the cool little minimo-optimized links on the left, it does the tabbed-browsing thing like a champ!
This one piece of software, if optimized for N770, would REALLY work out nice with Google-Nokia's nefarious plans, non??
Once again, I really appreciate your help, folks!
DCarter
