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Originally Posted by Kny View Post
If you are looking for the list of keystrokes you can get by pressing different buttons on the N810 hardware keyboard, I suggest a keylogger, and pressing buttons and combinations thereof on the keyboard systematically. I dont remember the name of one of these, but go ask google for an xwindows keylogger.
Keylogger? Wouldn't be xev enough? Of course, you have to run xev from a different computer, via ssh, in order to have the main xev window in the tablet receiving the input focus, and at same time being able to see see (in the remote terminal) the x-window event generated in the tablet. I did so, and learned a lot.
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Of course, you have to run xev from a different computer, via ssh, in order to have the main xev window in the tablet receiving the input focus, and at same time being able to see see (in the remote terminal) the x-window event generated in the tablet
I'm gobsmacked! I wonder how many people would buy this device if they knew this would be the answer to the question 'What do I press to shift the curser to the end of the document?'
It's like buying a quad bike and asking 'where's the starter?' and getting the reply, 'well, follow the wiring loom from the battery to the starter motor and trace it back behind the dash to the steering column and then press all the buttons and switches there until you find one you can adapt' :-)

Thanks for the replies, everyone.
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Well, I probably would. I didn't buy my N800 expecting a killer word-processor, you know...

The N810 has a nice little keyboard. But I wouldn't expect it to be one either. (And a marketing photo showing the keyboard would reveal that it has nowhere near enough modifiers to map all commonly used functions.)

To me, I guess I'd rather get that answer than the one Nokia would actually give:
Start it rolling, then pop the clutch. (Not even mentioning it has a starter, they just didn't have a button and so left it unwired.)

I consider the possibility of setting up Home, End, etc. combinations as a benefit (if not a readily accessible one) over the expected case of simply not having the keys, and hence not being able to send those.
 
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Lemmy,
The easiest way to get what you are describing is to use a bluetooth keyboard, which has those keys available to you. When I am doing and extensive writing, the n810 keyboard is too small for me, so I use an igo and things are fine....

just my 2 cents.
 
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Originally Posted by lemmy View Post
It's normal as far as I'm concerned to have a list of keystrokes for every app - all Windows and Mac apps come with a proper help file. Can you imagine using flight sim x without a list of keystrokes? Or Photoshop?
It seems absurd to write an application and then provide no instructions on how to use it. In fact it doesn't SEEM absurd, it is absurd.
Is there a home and end key? A delete as oppsoed to backspace key? These are everyday functions. I don't understand why they would be kept secret.
Welcome to linux.

One of the joys of linux is the way that you use different keys for the same function in different applications. In fact on the desktop, you can even use the buttons of the mouse for different things. I have even been told this is an advantage of not being forced to use the same keys. Presumably there is a master list somewhere that you can consult to ensure that you are not using the same keys as someone else.

So in short, no.
 
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