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2008-11-01
, 12:23
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#12
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The hardware of the slug is limited but you can find ways around that. My slug runs debian and has torrentflux with SQLite and LightTPD.
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2009-02-01
, 12:08
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Joined on Jul 2008
@ Vienna
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Yep slugs are indeed awesome. I am doing plenty of stuff with them.
Btw. I use my n810 with irreco and mmpc for controlling everything
I have 2:
2x Slug 266Mhz Both running debian etch. First slug has been running for >1 year; second slug is a recent addition.
1. Slug: Hardware:
1 TB External HDD
2xUSB Hubs
2 Gb USB Stick (OS)
USB Soundcard with Optical Output (hooked up to my Amp) USBUIRT for sending IR Signals (controlling TV, AMP etc.)
SIS-PM USB controllable power extension lead (4 sockets)
Software:
twonky media server
mpd
lirc
lighthttpd+php
Usage: Used to play music, control my IR devices (TV,AMP etc.), toggle the cabinet lights, stream media to the PS3, webserver etc.
2. Slug Hardware:
2 Gb USB Stick (OS)
USB Soundcard
D-Link Wlan Stick
Software:
esd sound server
got twonky,mpd and lighthttpd on it but its currently not running
Usage: Located in my bathroom, hooked up to a 2.1 System.
1. Slug streams whatever mpd is playing to this slug so I just have to turn the sound system on (1 button press) in order to hear the same music as in the main room.
I am running an esd sound server on it which is 99% of the time 100% in sync with the output of the main slug (mpc stop/play gets it quickly back in sync tho should anything be off).
Btw. I use my n810 with irreco and mmpc for controlling everything
I have 2:
2x Slug 266Mhz Both running debian etch. First slug has been running for >1 year; second slug is a recent addition.
1. Slug: Hardware:
1 TB External HDD
2xUSB Hubs
2 Gb USB Stick (OS)
USB Soundcard with Optical Output (hooked up to my Amp) USBUIRT for sending IR Signals (controlling TV, AMP etc.)
SIS-PM USB controllable power extension lead (4 sockets)
Software:
twonky media server
mpd
lirc
lighthttpd+php
Usage: Used to play music, control my IR devices (TV,AMP etc.), toggle the cabinet lights, stream media to the PS3, webserver etc.
2. Slug Hardware:
2 Gb USB Stick (OS)
USB Soundcard
D-Link Wlan Stick
Software:
esd sound server
got twonky,mpd and lighthttpd on it but its currently not running
Usage: Located in my bathroom, hooked up to a 2.1 System.
1. Slug streams whatever mpd is playing to this slug so I just have to turn the sound system on (1 button press) in order to hear the same music as in the main room.
I am running an esd sound server on it which is 99% of the time 100% in sync with the output of the main slug (mpc stop/play gets it quickly back in sync tho should anything be off).
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2009-02-02
, 18:16
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Joined on May 2007
@ Milton, Ontario, Canada
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I've never had a slug but wanted to add from the opposite side of things that any of the "WRT routers" these days seem to play the same sort of role. In particular the Asus WL-500GP does a good job of bridging the gap... low cost, but with 2 USB2.0 ports and full wifi capabilities. It all comes down to questions of purpose though... OMAP3 is awesome for low power media devices (that's what it's designed for after all), but it's not a network access point/storage device/ethernet switch/etc.
If you're looking for something more along the slug lines but with a bit more "beef" in terms of hardware, I found the next logical step is to move up to one of the embedded VIA or x86 boards that will offer you the same sort of network functionality/features, but with some more expansion and performance options: mini-box.com has a great set of them, with the ALIX series being my personal favourites for network-oriented features (and the prices of course are very favourable).
If you're looking for something more along the slug lines but with a bit more "beef" in terms of hardware, I found the next logical step is to move up to one of the embedded VIA or x86 boards that will offer you the same sort of network functionality/features, but with some more expansion and performance options: mini-box.com has a great set of them, with the ALIX series being my personal favourites for network-oriented features (and the prices of course are very favourable).
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2009-02-02
, 23:00
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Joined on Aug 2008
@ Finland
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Originally Posted by baeksu
If you're good with soldering there are documented hardware hacks how to expand the NSLU2 to 64, or even 128 megs of RAM, and, if 2 USB ports are not enough (shameless plug) my own hack of adding 3 more USB ports for a total of 5. The cool thing about the NSLU2 is that it can run ages on batteries or an UPS. It's really a shame that there was no hardware 'followup' from Linksys, the NSLU2 hardware is now about 5 (five !) years old.
Best thing about the slug is that you can run debian on it, so you have a large repository of packages available. But the hardware is *really* limited.
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2009-02-03
, 08:42
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Joined on Jul 2008
@ Vienna
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#16
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Originally Posted by jolouis
However the power consumption on the slug is way slower than on any of the embedded VIA or x86 board (correct me if I am wrong tho). Mine eats about 3 Watt on idle and 6 Watt on full load with everything.
I've never had a slug but wanted to add from the opposite side of things that any of the "WRT routers" these days seem to play the same sort of role. In particular the Asus WL-500GP does a good job of bridging the gap... low cost, but with 2 USB2.0 ports and full wifi capabilities. It all comes down to questions of purpose though... OMAP3 is awesome for low power media devices (that's what it's designed for after all), but it's not a network access point/storage device/ethernet switch/etc.
If you're looking for something more along the slug lines but with a bit more "beef" in terms of hardware, I found the next logical step is to move up to one of the embedded VIA or x86 boards that will offer you the same sort of network functionality/features, but with some more expansion and performance options: mini-box.com has a great set of them, with the ALIX series being my personal favourites for network-oriented features (and the prices of course are very favourable).
Also the price point, nowadays you can get a slug for as low as 50$.
And apart from that it's perfectly silent, creates no real heat or anything and is very small.
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2009-02-03
, 15:04
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Joined on May 2007
@ Milton, Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted by Ghostface
The price point definitely can't be beat, but you're not getting a new product for $50 (I assume that Ebay sort of pricing). The power/heat debate depends on the boards you're looking at. The VIA ones do offer a lot more horsepower (you're talking in the Ghz range), but take more power and require heat sinks/etc. On the opposite side of things, the Geode based systems such as the ALIX boards are on the same power/heat levels as the slugs and routers (MIPS based); my Alix 3c3 runs at 3W on linux idle and about 5-6W with the Wifi radio running in AP mode (the wifi card is a high power card though which is NOT the same as you get in most wireless routers) and a few servers and things running on it. No heat sink required, and the Geode will even give you thinks like hardware encryption support for added throughput, etc.
However the power consumption on the slug is way slower than on any of the embedded VIA or x86 board (correct me if I am wrong tho). Mine eats about 3 Watt on idle and 6 Watt on full load with everything.
Also the price point, nowadays you can get a slug for as low as 50$.
And apart from that it's perfectly silent, creates no real heat or anything and is very small.
Plus you're talking 256 mb RAM, a proper CF card for storage (or IDE adapter if you want), and real USB 2.0 throughput (not sure about the slug, but I know on the Asus routers although it's a USB 2.0 port, the CPU simply doesn't have enough power to give you maximum throughput... try copying a large file to the slug and see how long it takes compared to copying that same file to the drive connected via a USB 2.0 port on your computer... you'll see the difference, and it won't be because of the network speed). You can also get with sound options, etc. Again in my mind it's a nice alternative/step up from the slug if you need a bit more performance while keeping the original benefits. (The various options for ethernet ports VS mini PCI slots VS other ports such as audio/VGA/etc is also pretty handy).
In terms of cost, it's a bit more expensive than a $50 slug, but you have to remember too that you're buying new, still manufactured product and you're getting something with a bit more kick to it. In my mind the pricing is on par with Beagle or any of the other modern embedded system boards... again just with a different purpose/target in mind.
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2009-02-03
, 16:48
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@ Finland
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Originally Posted by jolouis
Amazon sells them for 62.99$, apparently new. The Geode chips in the ALIX boards are unfortunately EOL-d by AMD, too, so get them while you can as they're likely going to be in the same status soon.
The price point definitely can't be beat, but you're not getting a new product for $50 (I assume that Ebay sort of pricing).
opposite side of things, the Geode based systems such as the ALIX boards are on the same power/heat levels as the slugs and routers (MIPS based); my Alix 3c3 runs at 3W on linux idle and about 5-6W with the Wifi radio running
the slug, but I know on the Asus routers although it's a USB 2.0 port, the CPU simply doesn't have enough power to give you maximum throughput... try copying a large file to the slug and see
product and you're getting something with a bit more kick to it. In my mind the pricing is on par with Beagle or any of the other modern embedded system boards... again just with a different purpose/target in mind.
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2009-02-03
, 17:53
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Joined on Oct 2007
@ Vancouver, BC, Canada
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#19
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How to Know You're A Geek # 86:
You think "slug" starts with an "N" and ends with a "2" !
You think "slug" starts with an "N" and ends with a "2" !
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2009-02-03
, 18:59
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Joined on Mar 2007
@ Pennsylvania, USA
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Originally Posted by qole
That's especially humorous coming from the guy who has campaigned for pronouncing "chroot" as a word.
How to Know You're A Geek # 86:
You think "slug" starts with an "N" and ends with a "2" !
The "N" in "NSLU2" is clearly silent. Much like the "G" in Gnome, err, isn't.
Never mind.
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I've used it for other purposes before, but the specs are really constrained. 32MB of ram is too little to run php and mysql, so I just got a used mini-itx case and board with VIA cpu + 1GB of ram. It's not as small as a slug, but as it sits on top of a bookshelf, it's hardly an issue.
Best thing about the slug is that you can run debian on it, so you have a large repository of packages available. But the hardware is *really* limited.