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Originally Posted by Lord Raiden View Post
$99 is a good buy, but with some of the Moblin, Maemo, Android and other FOSS based smart phones due out soon, why bother? It might be a good hold over for the time being, but in the end, the new FOSS phones are gonna smack down Apple so hard it'll leave them seeing stars for years. After that, the only reason to keep an iPhone will be because you're a mac fanboy.
While I don't completly agree with your sentiments, I do agree that Android and other FOSS based smart phones will have a better chance than Apple. As long as Apple keeps things locked down to their ecosystem then they will never reach mass market. Which, given Apple's strategy, they have never been interested in (for example, they are quite content with the marketshare for PCs they have, they try to increase it but they know they won't be beating Microsoft anytime soon).

Once Android and other FOSS phones start coming out on several platforms then it will be interesting to see.
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It'll make no difference to the people here; since the iPhone is shunned like some type of leprosy... however it does undercut the living daylights out of a lot of Nokia offerings right now.

As it stands, I'm an owner of an iPhone 3G; but you'll never hear me say that it's better than anything else out there because it's not. There's so much room for improvement that it's sick. But it does what I want - besides be a phone - but I can't stand that I can't upgrade the memory. However, most consumers don't even care about that.

Too bad I missed when the Nokia N93i went on clearance as such since it's the last Nokia cell that I liked.

This last release though, does give Nokia enough time to gain some ground. I hope they take advantage... and not release a half-assed Maemo phone.
All this really says is that OS 3.0 is about all the iPhone has. Apple is apparently making just incremental improvements in hardware. The fact that even with a presumably faster processor in iPhone 3gS, the OS still doesn't run multiple apps makes me think that perhaps it never will.

Apple has done real well in the short term. They always do. However just like with all of its other past innovative devices, it eventually runs into brick walls of its own design.

Right now, to more and more regular folks, mobile web and mobile web applications = iPhone.

10-15 years ago that same demographic thought that the web was AOL... A whole lot of people were first exposed to Internet technologies from within AOL's "walled garden". Once people became tech savvy and realized that they were being charged a premium to use a particular brand, they quickly abandoned the company that introduced them to the technology in the first place.

Apples got a few good years left with the iPhone. After that if a mobile device ain't open source, no one will want it. (IMHO)

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Originally Posted by Lord Raiden View Post
Over in Europe they have laws that say that the cellular providers can't bundle the phone with the plan
It's not that rosy I'm afraid, it's just that in some jurisdictions they are obliged to also offer an unlocked, no-contract version.

Still, to put things in perspective here's the new UK price of the old 8GB model without a contract (but note: still locked to the operator!): £342.50.
 
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More $ info for iphone (as if you care ), apparantly if 'without' contract, an iphone 3G may cost $699 or $599, http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=217800166 , "Without a contract commitment or upgrade discount, the iPhone 3G S costs $599 for the 16GB model and $699 for the 32GB model. ..."

This cellphone shopping is way too complicated for me!

When I do grocery shopping in a grocery store, I always wonder how can an uneducated or unsophiscated shopper shop? Even with the same content, they came with all these different units, per oz, per lb, per fluid oz, per liter, per gm, per drain wt, per 'count', on and on and on.... A couple of time, I heard some people kind of just pick up the onsale item said to their love one, "its onsale, must be a good deal." Well, I must confess, I am in the same category regarding shopping for cell



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Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
After that if a mobile device ain't open source, no one will want it. (IMHO)
We're going to have to agree to disagree here. Open source on phones... not yet.
 
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Still no physical keyboard?
Still no open development environment?
Still locked into AT&T in the US?

Still not interested.
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If nokia can announce something before june 17th.... many of the potential customers may actually wait to consider the n900 over the iphone 3gs.
 

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Refer to my title.....$99 a pece, Good? Bad? Dont know about Rover, it is very bad for mr. Ed Colligan, palm decided to switch head, Yak!

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Refer to my title.....$99 a pece, Good? Bad? Dont know about Rover, it is very bad for mr. Ed Colligan, palm decided to switch head, Yak!

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I love my iPod touch (iPhone without the phone; I'm a happy N95 owner). Its a very good bit of hardware and if they can crank out essentially the same think for $99 then yes, its very good for Apple. Good for Nokia, no! The more ubiquitous the iPhone gets (and people invest in it buying apps) the harder it is for Nokia to coax them away with the N900.
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Originally Posted by bunanson View Post
I am NOT talking about the iphone per se, or maybe I am, I am kind of marvel at the price tag $99, able to snatch something called iphone, and how is my honey, or anybody's honey, to justify a Nokia $399 N810 Wimax? I know, there is in deed a time difference. "Honey, why dont we just get an iphone, and we can get 4 of them, and if it breaks, you can do that 4 X :-) ..." What I refer to is this good or bad for the upcoming Nokia,...Rover?

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4 iPhones for $99 and 4 contracts for 2 years each ? That sounds awefully expensive and wasteful rather than one $399 Na810 Wimax and no contract.

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