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2009-08-28 , 20:26
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Originally Posted by Venemo View Post
Watching the videos about the UI, there is one more question: Are there actually any scroll bars in Maemo? Because it's very nice to scroll through lists the way the video shows us... but, without a scroll bar how do I know where I am in the entire list? Sometimes it isn't evident.
I doubt there are scroll bars in Maemo 5. Yes, they knew about the contextual issue you mentioned but probably dropped them anyway.
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2009-08-28 , 20:37
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Originally Posted by korbé View Post
I do not understand how to develop software in the display mode you want (vertical or horizontal) may pose a problem.
You can develop in the way you want, but Fremantle, as an OS, does not give you any OS level support for that (apart from signalling the changes). This, in other words, means extra work for developers if they want to implement both orientations.
 

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2009-08-28 , 20:45
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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
You can develop in the way you want, but Fremantle, as an OS, does not give you any OS level support for that (apart from signalling the changes). This, in other words, means extra work for developers if they want to implement both orientations.
I never said it was the OS to manage the display modes of third party software. (my English is not so bad)

I think the OS that can appear in vertical mode, is a weak point because not usable with one hand.
 
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Originally Posted by korbé View Post
I never said it was the OS to manage the display modes of third party software. (my English is not so bad)

I think the OS that can appear in vertical mode, is a weak point because not usable with one hand.
For the money the n900 cost I will always use two hands, since I dont want to drop it...
 

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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
Even if you [support both portrait and landscape orientation] for system apps (effectively doubling UI work)...
Nokia may well be saving this for Harmattan, where they need to rewrite all the application UIs anyway.

Up through Diablo, Maemo devices were (barring hacks) landscape-only Internet Tablets. Fremantle devices appear to be pocket computers with phone capabilities. Harmattan devices may use oFono and have more fully integrated phone, and portrait, capabilities.
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2009-08-28 , 21:06
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Originally Posted by Venemo View Post
Watching the videos about the UI, there is one more question: Are there actually any scroll bars in Maemo? Because it's very nice to scroll through lists the way the video shows us... but, without a scroll bar how do I know where I am in the entire list? Sometimes it isn't evident.
I'm assuming/hoping that there will be a small indicator in the margin where a scrollbar that will normally be that shows you how far you are in a list, but which fades out when you stop scrolling. Like Canola and iPhone.
 
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Originally Posted by pelago View Post
I'm assuming/hoping that there will be a small indicator in the margin where a scrollbar that will normally be that shows you how far you are in a list, but which fades out when you stop scrolling. Like Canola and iPhone.
Something like the one in mauku will be nice.
 
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2009-08-28 , 21:14
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Originally Posted by konttori View Post
keyboard makes landscape the 'preferred' format.
Definitely, but from my experience with the N97 (which has very similar form factor and functionality) there are many many many situations where you would want to use the N900 in vertical mode too.

For example if I'm walking with a bag I simply cannot hold the device in two hands, but I may still want to access some of its functions (for example changing tracks on the music player, checking my e-mail, changing radio stations etc).

And if you want to write with one hand (which many people do on messages of various kinds) you'd need a vertical mode with a virtual keypad.

One of the main reasons the Nokia 5800 has sold so well is possibly because it is a touchscreen smartphone that works just as well one-handed as it does two-handed. Its narrow screen and vertical modes for almost every application mean you can use it just like a normal mobile phone if you wanted to. It even has a virtual predictive text keypad which I find very useful for messaging, my text entry speed is extremely high on the 5800's virtual keypad because I've been using predictive text mobiles for about seven years now.
 

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since this appears to be the slight grumbles thread...did anyone else think the video showed a clunky move from gtalk chat to phone call. given how slick the rest was.I expected the message 'I'll call you' to be followed by clicking on the contacts picture in the chat session and being taken back to the contact details. Instead it exits chat, scolls to screen with shortcut for contact, selects it then calls. hopefully things can be done to reduce steps for common work patterns.
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how is it so hard when it works perfectly in the N95 and N97 with autorotate?
 
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