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	qole	2009-12-02 , 20:53
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X-Chat in extras-devel works fine.

Some problems I have had with it, along with the workarounds to make things very usable for me:

- Settings are not saved, and attempting to save settings crashes XChat
-- Workaround: Edit the config file: ~/.xchat2/xchat.conf

- No tab key for autocompletion of users' names
-- Workaround: remap my keys to use Fn+Rightarrow as Tab key

- Upon closing, the maemo-xinput-sounds process sometimes runs away and starts consuming 97% of the processor until the battery dies
-- Workaround: "killall maemo-xinput-sounds" if the load applet shows strange activity after closing XChat.

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hqh	2009-12-02 , 21:15
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Originally Posted by Petteri

Thanks. I have vague memory that I have seen maemo xterm with alt on the menubar. I don't like to restart my irssi session, so I think I will look around a bit more before modifying irssi config

Originally Posted by zerojay

How about sharing your irssi configuration files or showing people how they can do this themselves?

You can use the /bind command in irssi to change the keybindings without restarting it. Afterwards just use /save to write the config file and make the bindings permanent.

For example (the actual commands in bold, the rest is comments):
/bind Show a list of all current bindings
/bind ^P previous_window Binds ctrl-P to change to previous window
/bind -delete ^P Clears the binding for ctrl-P

Some key combinations might get eaten by the terminal, ssh or screen, so you'll probably have to experiment a bit to find working ones.

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davost	2009-12-02 , 22:00
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Originally Posted by joppu

set up irssi on on a screen on your desktop or server and use X-Terminal to connect to it using SSH.

More info

I was just wondering, why recommend a solution which involves opening up a port on your desktop for no apparent reason? This is, IMHO, a solution if and only if you really need the ssh service running for some other reason. Don't forget, there's alot of bad guys out there.

EDIT: Or maybe there is a reason. Battery life and data traffic economy?

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	ewan	2009-12-02 , 22:12
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There are hundreds of reasons to want to be able to SSH into your desktop - it's a fantastically useful thing to be able to do. If you set it up with only one username allowed to log in, and only with a key, you're pretty secure from would-be bad guys.

If you can do it this way, you should - it's great.

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in-maemo	2009-12-02 , 22:17
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I use pidgin for my IRC needs. It has SSL support. The only problem to my mind is that the window to see the chat messages is really really small.

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nytcrawlr	2009-12-02 , 22:17
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Been using X-Chat all day since I downloaded last night, fantastic IRC client in it's current state. Only issue I've noticed is when closing the app, if you choose "Minimize to tray", the app will close down but cannot be launched from the icon again.

Thinking about it now, I should of dropped into the shell and see if there was job present to fg back into the foreground. I'll try that later.

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	qole	2009-12-02 , 22:45
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nytcrawlr: If you like to "minimize to tray" (why? that concept doesn't make sense in Maemo 5) you can install "hildon-systray" and you can see the XChat icon there... That's pretty much the only use I've found so far for hildon-systray.

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davost	2009-12-02 , 22:46
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Originally Posted by ewan

There are hundreds of reasons to want to be able to SSH into your desktop - it's a fantastically useful thing to be able to do. If you set it up with only one username allowed to log in, and only with a key, you're pretty secure from would-be bad guys.

If you can do it this way, you should - it's great.

Granted, ssh is very useful, I use it a lot. But I only have it enabled when and where I really need it. As a matter of fact you are not really safe. Just consider TLS. The foundation of almost all web security. That was considered safe until the renogatiation weakness was discovered not many months ago.

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CrashandDie	2009-12-02 , 22:57
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Originally Posted by ewan

There are hundreds of reasons to want to be able to SSH into your desktop - it's a fantastically useful thing to be able to do. If you set it up with only one username allowed to log in, and only with a key, you're pretty secure from would-be bad guys.

If you can do it this way, you should - it's great.

Actually, the "one username only makes it secure" is a myth. A username isn't a secret, and it shouldn't be treated as one. Yes, my username on my boxes is "slauwers". Yes, my boxes are exposed to the wild wild web.

Just disallow root logon and enforce PKI authentication. Has been discussed plenty of times.

Originally Posted by davost

Granted, ssh is very useful, I use it a lot. But I only have it enabled when and where I really need it. As a matter of fact you are not really safe. Just consider TLS. The foundation of almost all web security. That was considered safe until the renogatiation weakness was discovered not many months ago.

You're paranoid, good for you. Most people can't be bothered to turn sshd on and off the whole time -- it kinda defeats the purpose. SSH with PKI authentication is very secure. I can give you a few IPs, to you and the whole wide world, and I have no doubt no one would hack it by guessing my private key. Maybe an exploit in one of the cryptolibraries, but then again, that's a one-in-a-million event, and I really doubt my servers are of enough importance to warrant that kind of level of research.

There's much bigger chance one of the gazillion other services you are running will have a leak, exploit or backdoor than SSH.

Oh, and for the record, he never said his desktop was exposed to the web -- wifi works in local too.