I'm thinking AJAX right now; there will be applications using ajax (there is allready) If e.g google makes an "office-packet" and combines that with gmail in a way that all information/applications are on gmail. All you need is thin-client, data and programs are on the web.
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/A/Ajax.html

a VNC viewer that uses the D pad on the 770 to navigate around a full resolution screen on your home machine would at least give you the power of your home machine any ware in the house.

I just found this

NX Client Embedded Edition
Version: 1.2.2 for Sharp Zaurus 5xxx
http://www.nomachine.com/download_pr...php?Prod_Id=22

if it is made for the Zaurus the 770 should be doable for the 770. and if it works well I will buy it for my home machine.

Yes, that will work, but keep in mind that VNC is designed to allow you a remote view of any desktop and it does this by reproducing the remote desktop as a static bitmap which has to be sent over the network every time the display is refreshed. VNC's protocol, RFB (remote frame buffer) only knows pixels and user input. X, however, is designed to allow you a remote view of any desktop that has X installed, and it does so by generating a remote display dynamically, using the power of the native X primitives. If you use X you will have a much better experience because X knows a lot more about the display than the pixels that compose it.

VNC is a very nice remote display tool and it has the advantage of not requiring X on the remote desktop, but when you have X on the remote computer it's a shame to ignore the inherent advantage of X as the best remote display protocol ever invented.

If things are done right, X will far outperform VNC and is far more versatile. It's what puts the graphics and user input there in the first place; it only makes sense to use X when you're using the 770 as a remote display device instead of ignoring it.

I'm not speaking of theory here - I've seen the difference and VNC can't compare to X when the remote display's job is to open a remote window to an X application. Use the right tool for the job - don't use VNC when you should be using X.

If you're doing VNC, then at least be sure to use NX. I hope somebody who knows this better than I will jump in here because the goal is for the 770 to use the right tool for the job, and for it to open up our eyes to the power of network computing which means remote display computing. And that means collaborative computing.

Nobody in the planet understands all of the issues of remote (i.e., network) computing all that well. This is a whole new beginning and a lot of things that made sense in the PC desktop world do not make sense in the network computing era. The PC desktop era will soon be seen as a the way we used computers in the brief time before 770-type devices changed everything into network computing. Everything has to be rethought. Keep your minds open, learn about X, especially as a network-transparent display protocol and refocus all your energies from merely enhancing tools to enhancing the applications. X has come back to life. There are many very talented people working on it to make it better in every way. Learn about it and you'll get far more out of your 770 than if you just treat it like it's a mere Windows Pocket PC. It's anything but that.

If X is available on the 770 could somebody (remoteuser?) post a simple walkthrough of how to get X server up and running on your desktop (preferably Mac OS X, though I'm sure I could work it out from somebodys instructions for XP) and how to connect to it from the 770?

Thanks soooo mcuh if somebody can help.

Uber

For now, use the search engines. Words like howto, walkthrough (walkthru), "X Window System", tutorial, howto, walkthrough (walkthru), etc.. I don't have a 770 yet so I am somewhat limited. Plus, I'm not a programmer or sysadmin so that limits how much I can help. Somebody who knows this, though, should step forward. Too bad we're in the Printer Forum!

http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/XWindow-User-HOWTO/

What we use here is a line like this, and it's embedded in a desktop icon with an instruction to leave the terminal window open.

ssh -X username@ipaddress /clientapplicationfilepath

SSH establishes your security. If you're doing this over the WAN you should use it, and it involves a password. On a secure Lan you wouldn't need SSH. If the remote computer is behind a firewall then you have to have port some port open (port 22 is the default for SSH but it can be any port) to poke through it. If you use another port, say 2222, then the instruction is

ssh -X -p 2222 username@ipaddress /clientapplicationfilepath

Get familiar with the concept of exporting displays, too. Yes, it's definitely time for a 770 remote X tutorial forum here! I'm ordering a 770 as soon as they're available and the apps that I've developed will be available very soon after.

The dropbear ssh app for the 770 does not support the -X flag.

So how do we go about fixing that? If I were a programmer I'd jump on it.
(Permission is hereby granted.... to modify.., blah blah...)

We're running Debian here and it's supported under Debian (both KDE & Gnome). I use it all the time. What gives? Dropbear talks all about openssh on its website. What are we to make of this ?
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/ssh

If you want X forwarding, don't install the (small/cut-down) Dropbear SSH client/server; install OpenSSH:

http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mae...ree/o/openssh/

Not yet tested ssh -X, though.

At least there is somebody here who has fully understood the objective of the device and where the software is going. What is the use of installing a 280Mb software to just write a letter? Or having 2GB of mails sitting on your harddisk and backing up each day/week.
It is gonne take sometime before people gonne get away from the reflex: Can I install or run this or that?
Just do it on the web and even more efficiently.

OMFG it works! I have 'gedit', the gnome text editor, opened on my N770 right now. One big problem is that I cannot type text: if I put the focus inside the text-field, the software keyboard doesn't appear. Dialogs work, fullscreen doesn't, printing works ofcourse (I copy-pasted some text, the printer is connected to my pc.), if I minimize the gedit window, I can't get it back.

(I had to install the openssh package on the command line too.)