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2010-05-07
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I'm sorry, a 3-minute video is 90 MB and Ovi refuses to allow it via N900 share service. I'll go around it tomorrow, it's 1 AM.
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2010-05-07
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The web's player may be a Flash based player, but according to Download Helper plugin for Firefox, I am able to download it in MP4 format.
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2010-05-07
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Originally Posted by bennypr0fane
Where are you playing back the uploaded videos?N900? have you checked them in your computer? due to the low color support, playing flash videos in the browser in N900 gives you those banding/pixelated results. Even for the HD videos you get those result if you play them in N900 browser. Check the discussion here.
I don't get it. OVI always plays my videos (that i uploaded in mp4) to me in flv., so they must have been converted,right? How can i avoid that? How to you get ovi to play back the original mp4?
Your video looks pretty good, but there's no panning or fast movement - 'cause those are the things that result for me in distorting "pixellations" after conversion to flv. I'd be curious to know if ohter people get the same distortions with faster pans or movements...
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2010-05-08
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Originally Posted by jaeezzy
No, I actually never tried it on the N900, they look this bad on the 20" screen of my desktop PC...
Where are you playing back the uploaded videos?N900? have you checked them in your computer? due to the low color support, playing flash videos in the browser in N900 gives you those banding/pixelated results. Even for the HD videos you get those result if you play them in N900 browser. Check the discussion here.
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2010-05-08
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Originally Posted by christexaport
Yes, worked for me too. I downloaded the file, it also has as many pixellations as the flash version, still looks bad
The web's player may be a Flash based player, but according to Download Helper plugin for Firefox, I am able to download it in MP4 format.
Here's a comparison of the .mp4 downlaoded via Firefox Video Download Helper and the original one:
Original:
name 20100502_028.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 7.47 MiB
Duration : 17s 280ms
Overall bit rate : 3 624 Kbps
Performer : Bennypr0fane
Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-03 06:03:00
Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-03 06:03:00
Classification : (empty)
Classification_Reason : 31a7663034198221b6f598c88319a4fa
Video
ID : 2
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Codec ID : 20
Duration : 17s 275ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 504 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 3 894 Kbps
Width : 848 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Stream size : 7.18 MiB (96%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-03 06:03:00
Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-03 06:03:00
Audio
ID : 1
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 17s 280ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 132.3 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: C
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 274 KiB (4%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-03 06:03:00
Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-03 06:03:00
And OVI:
name OVI compressed.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 1.88 MiB
Duration : 17s 250ms
Overall bit rate : 916 Kbps
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 17s 250ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 816 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 368 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.116
Stream size : 1.68 MiB (89%)
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 17s 194ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 96.0 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 199 KiB (10%)
Here's the link.
We're still stuck with Youtube as the only decent solution.... *sigh*
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2010-05-09
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I couldn't do it either, it gets transcoded. AFAICT, they all transcode, even in HD, and the web codec used is rate limited. Which makes sense, because if they didn't, the high movement would peak the bandwidth, chopping it up and taking up several other slots in bandwidth.
Rate limiting codecs give up quality in panning and high-action scenes to keep the bit rate down.
I'm afraid that you're either stuck with a HD service from a normal site or, you could post it to a normal site like YouTube and linking the original to a file sharing site, file-based, one that doesn't require membership.
To protect it, you could pack the file with a password. WinRAR (if you own one) is notoriously harder to crack open after encryption relative to free zip.
Large Zipped files with decent passwords is also very hard to knock, as the weakness of Zip lies in non-solid archiving.
Rate limiting codecs give up quality in panning and high-action scenes to keep the bit rate down.
I'm afraid that you're either stuck with a HD service from a normal site or, you could post it to a normal site like YouTube and linking the original to a file sharing site, file-based, one that doesn't require membership.
To protect it, you could pack the file with a password. WinRAR (if you own one) is notoriously harder to crack open after encryption relative to free zip.
Large Zipped files with decent passwords is also very hard to knock, as the weakness of Zip lies in non-solid archiving.
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2010-05-09
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Originally Posted by ndi
Well it's not like I need top-notch security for my videos, they're not top-secret; I just don't want to show them to every youtube user in the world, but only my friends, family and students, i.e. the people who appear in my clips.
I couldn't do it either, it gets transcoded. AFAICT, they all transcode, even in HD, and the web codec used is rate limited. Which makes sense, because if they didn't, the high movement would peak the bandwidth, chopping it up and taking up several other slots in bandwidth.
Rate limiting codecs give up quality in panning and high-action scenes to keep the bit rate down.
I'm afraid that you're either stuck with a HD service from a normal site or, you could post it to a normal site like YouTube and linking the original to a file sharing site, file-based, one that doesn't require membership.
To protect it, you could pack the file with a password. WinRAR (if you own one) is notoriously harder to crack open after encryption relative to free zip.
Large Zipped files with decent passwords is also very hard to knock, as the weakness of Zip lies in non-solid archiving.
however, I found that some services let you import the stuff you uploaded to youtube, but in the same quality, letting you share Youtube-private videos with your contacts from those services (e.g. multiply, windows live and facebook).
File sharing is also a good option though: No streaming, but downloading is ok, as long as noone needs to register just in order to watch a short clip. E.g. 4shared has pretty decent handling of privacy settings, and a desktop client!
I get an MP4. Furthermore, attempting a link to the video got me THIS, which yields an MP4.
It is transcoded, but it's rather similar to the original. No movement, true. Running test now.
N900 dead and Nokia no longer replaces them. Thanks for all the fish.
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