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please fill in bugreports.
How good are bugreports if the fixes are a myth - like PR1.2?
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Where can I find a list that contain these deficiencies if I were to research this properly?
Here's one of many sources:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=655215&postcount=1

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Where can I find a list that contain these deficiencies if I were to research this properly?
Here, of course, where we have it shoved in our faces every day and are insulted and trolled constantly because we like the device.
 
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@tex, wmarone: well obviously

But any kinds of negative sounding posts have always been swamped with denials by the apologists. Especially earlier on in the past months closer to N900's initial availability.
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
But any kinds of negative sounding posts have always been swamped with denials by the apologists.

...and any sort of praise has been countered vehemently by "haters".

Point?
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@tex: the point is that 'research' is near impossible without having the hardware yourself, due to the 'apologist tendencies' to mask the true deficiencies.
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
@tex, wmarone: well obviously

But any kinds of negative sounding posts have always been swamped with denials by the apologists. Especially earlier on in the past months closer to N900's initial availability.
I sort of agree - it's a vicious, evil circle in a way..

a) New user state some complaints they have about a device,
b) Fanboys shoot it down, ridicule the poster claims all is ok,
c) Potential buyer reads thread buys device as fanboys says all is ok

[repeat]

Open and honest discussions about a device flaws and goodness would probably cut down on the number of 'disappointed' users coming to complain about what they bought (and yes, of course doing more research, try it out in the store, check multiple sources, use your head, etc, etc are also tools that should be used - but since someone brought up that people should had read up here before they purchased it still sounds apt).

I wasn't around when the N810 was released - was there an equal amount of heated pro and con discussions back then?
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Originally Posted by h3llraz0r View Post
- App Manager is slow
- Small list of apps
- Music player sucks
- No real auto-focus feature
- Lack of support/updates
- Choppy UI
- Sync software full of bugs
- GPS software lacking

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- App Manager is slow - Seems ok here considering the amount of open applications it scans within the within the application catalogues
- Small list of apps - More than enough apps for my purpose agaisnt the reality of what the device is used for.
- Music player sucks - Music player plays at this end without complaint.
- No real auto-focus feature - The camera has an autofocus that real and works for me each time it's used in auto setting.
- Lack of support/updates - All the PR's before 1.2 have come downloaded & installed without problem. The open applications installed are available for update on a regular basis.
- Choppy UI - User interface not choppy here be it single tasking or multi tasking.
- Sync software full of bugs - Manage to sync mine without problem or hiccup.
- GPS software lacking - GPS work fine and applications are available for download that utilise the GPS. There's also GPS mapping applcations out there as an option.


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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
@tex: the point is that 'research' is near impossible without having the hardware yourself, due to the 'apologist tendencies' to mask the true deficiencies.
I still take issue with that.

When the N900 was first released, I found far, FAR more negative press on it than positive. I daresay it might actually be the same now.

And I'm still befuddled by what detractors expect here. I respectfully point to the url and all identity elements clearly showing this to be a Maemo-centric site. More people are naturally here to learn what they can do with the N900, not zero in on flaws.

So a little more pragmaticism, guys, please, and less disingenuity over the default tenor.
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I'm not even going to bother replying to these threads anymore.

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