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Ahem.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20030974-251.html

Android outshines Apple in 4th quarter


Hello? Where is Nokia? Are they even trying? I thought Nokia was supposed to be making earnest efforts to get into the US market. heheh
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Have you read this leaked memo by Elop?


http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/n...honest-burnin/

Hello there,

There is a pertinent story about a man who was working on an oil platform in the North Sea. He woke up one night from a loud explosion, which suddenly set his entire oil platform on fire. In mere moments, he was surrounded by flames. Through the smoke and heat, he barely made his way out of the chaos to the platform's edge. When he looked down over the edge, all he could see were the dark, cold, foreboding Atlantic waters.

As the fire approached him, the man had mere seconds to react. He could stand on the platform, and inevitably be consumed by the burning flames. Or, he could plunge 30 meters in to the freezing waters. The man was standing upon a "burning platform," and he needed to make a choice.

He decided to jump. It was unexpected. In ordinary circumstances, the man would never consider plunging into icy waters. But these were not ordinary times - his platform was on fire. The man survived the fall and the waters. After he was rescued, he noted that a "burning platform" caused a radical change in his behaviour.

We too, are standing on a "burning platform," and we must decide how we are going to change our behaviour.

Over the past few months, I've shared with you what I've heard from our shareholders, operators, developers, suppliers and from you. Today, I'm going to share what I've learned and what I have come to believe.

I have learned that we are standing on a burning platform.

And, we have more than one explosion - we have multiple points of scorching heat that are fuelling a blazing fire around us.

For example, there is intense heat coming from our competitors, more rapidly than we ever expected. Apple disrupted the market by redefining the smartphone and attracting developers to a closed, but very powerful ecosystem.

In 2008, Apple's market share in the $300+ price range was 25 percent; by 2010 it escalated to 61 percent. They are enjoying a tremendous growth trajectory with a 78 percent earnings growth year over year in Q4 2010. Apple demonstrated that if designed well, consumers would buy a high-priced phone with a great experience and developers would build applications. They changed the game, and today, Apple owns the high-end range.

And then, there is Android. In about two years, Android created a platform that attracts application developers, service providers and hardware manufacturers. Android came in at the high-end, they are now winning the mid-range, and quickly they are going downstream to phones under €100. Google has become a gravitational force, drawing much of the industry's innovation to its core.

Let's not forget about the low-end price range. In 2008, MediaTek supplied complete reference designs for phone chipsets, which enabled manufacturers in the Shenzhen region of China to produce phones at an unbelievable pace. By some accounts, this ecosystem now produces more than one third of the phones sold globally - taking share from us in emerging markets.

While competitors poured flames on our market share, what happened at Nokia? We fell behind, we missed big trends, and we lost time. At that time, we thought we were making the right decisions; but, with the benefit of hindsight, we now find ourselves years behind.

The first iPhone shipped in 2007, and we still don't have a product that is close to their experience. Android came on the scene just over 2 years ago, and this week they took our leadership position in smartphone volumes. Unbelievable.

We have some brilliant sources of innovation inside Nokia, but we are not bringing it to market fast enough. We thought MeeGo would be a platform for winning high-end smartphones. However, at this rate, by the end of 2011, we might have only one MeeGo product in the market.

At the midrange, we have Symbian. It has proven to be non-competitive in leading markets like North America. Additionally, Symbian is proving to be an increasingly difficult environment in which to develop to meet the continuously expanding consumer requirements, leading to slowness in product development and also creating a disadvantage when we seek to take advantage of new hardware platforms. As a result, if we continue like before, we will get further and further behind, while our competitors advance further and further ahead.

At the lower-end price range, Chinese OEMs are cranking out a device much faster than, as one Nokia employee said only partially in jest, "the time that it takes us to polish a PowerPoint presentation." They are fast, they are cheap, and they are challenging us.

And the truly perplexing aspect is that we're not even fighting with the right weapons. We are still too often trying to approach each price range on a device-to-device basis.

The battle of devices has now become a war of ecosystems, where ecosystems include not only the hardware and software of the device, but developers, applications, ecommerce, advertising, search, social applications, location-based services, unified communications and many other things. Our competitors aren't taking our market share with devices; they are taking our market share with an entire ecosystem. This means we're going to have to decide how we either build, catalyse or join an ecosystem.

This is one of the decisions we need to make. In the meantime, we've lost market share, we've lost mind share and we've lost time.

On Tuesday, Standard & Poor's informed that they will put our A long term and A-1 short term ratings on negative credit watch. This is a similar rating action to the one that Moody's took last week. Basically it means that during the next few weeks they will make an analysis of Nokia, and decide on a possible credit rating downgrade. Why are these credit agencies contemplating these changes? Because they are concerned about our competitiveness.

Consumer preference for Nokia declined worldwide. In the UK, our brand preference has slipped to 20 percent, which is 8 percent lower than last year. That means only 1 out of 5 people in the UK prefer Nokia to other brands. It's also down in the other markets, which are traditionally our strongholds: Russia, Germany, Indonesia, UAE, and on and on and on.

How did we get to this point? Why did we fall behind when the world around us evolved?

This is what I have been trying to understand. I believe at least some of it has been due to our attitude inside Nokia. We poured gasoline on our own burning platform. I believe we have lacked accountability and leadership to align and direct the company through these disruptive times. We had a series of misses. We haven't been delivering innovation fast enough. We're not collaborating internally.

Nokia, our platform is burning.

We are working on a path forward -- a path to rebuild our market leadership. When we share the new strategy on February 11, it will be a huge effort to transform our company. But, I believe that together, we can face the challenges ahead of us. Together, we can choose to define our future.

The burning platform, upon which the man found himself, caused the man to shift his behaviour, and take a bold and brave step into an uncertain future. He was able to tell his story. Now, we have a great opportunity to do the same.

Stephen.
Yikes...
 

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Call me Schadenfreude Freddie, but I just love news like this.

Smug arrogance gets it humbling comeuppance. A sight just Beautiful to behold.

I was a forum member here in 2007 with a N800 and before the original iPhone was launched. How well I remember the resident Nokia Shills and Pedants telling us to shut up already when we were asking for a Maemo apps platform.

And as for mobile phone capability, well forget that. And anyway we were not to be so uppity and to wait patiently for Step 5 of 5.

The patronising mantra from these Shills and Pedants was that we were “comparing apples with oranges”. Too true we were and the Apple’s won out big time.

So Nokia, may you continue on your self-initiated train wreck trajectory and bring me even greater news in the weeks to come.

ROFLMFAO.
 

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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt View Post
Have you read this leaked memo by Elop?


http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/n...honest-burnin/



Yikes...
Fake, gay and fake.

This reads like it was written by one of those un-informed engadget pundits who like to hi-five cumwads all over each other while twit blogging on their facespace.

Delete this menace.
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A sad, sad day indeed for Nokia.

I suspect when $100 android devices invade, Nokia is going to get cut off at the knees with its stronghold on feature-phones in developing countries.

I can only imagine how much more difficult competing will be without investor confidence and (I'm assuming) less cash. I smell layoffs on the horizon.
 

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A sad, sad day indeed for Nokia.
The saddest part will be if it also brings down MeeGo.

Jobs and layoffs are inevitable already looking at the tumbling profit figures.

Edit update
It looks like MeeGo is not looking too healthy either.
http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-n9-00...ails-09131996/

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Originally Posted by Rebski View Post
The saddest part will be if it also brings down MeeGo.

Jobs and layoffs are inevitable already looking at the tumbling profit figures.
Indeed, this is a bit of a mess, and MeeGo seems threatened.

However, all hope is not lost for traditional linux on mobile. Ubuntu is doing some great work to make their OS more tablet friendly. The UI and windowing system is being overhauled and things like multi-touch are now standard. Moreover Mark Shuttleworth has made it his mission to polish the UX, and it shows. Ubuntu 11 is easily my fav desktop OS (from a UX standpoint) and getting better and better.

Sure, it's no MeeGo, but it is a traditional linux OS, with a very polished repo system, and additional services. It's only a matter of time before it's skinned to work more appropriately.

There was also a post regarding fully QT support as standard, and even Android cross-development. Don't be surprised if Ubuntu allows unadulterated Android apps to run!

As soon as ARM catches up to ATOM (maintaining long battery life, quick sleeps, and nice form factor), I will get a Ubuntu tablet in a new york minute. If it runs Android apps, then I will have the best of both worlds and a very productive environment.
 

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It seems that Android is going to be a part of this years GDC (Game Developer Conference). Check out the agenda:
http://www.google.com/events/gdc/2011/agenda.html

What excites me most about this are these two talks:
  • Building Aggressively Compatible Android Games
  • C++ on Android Just Got Better: The New NDK

It seems that Android is about to introduce something new with the NDK! I'm also interested to hear Chris talk about 'Aggressively Compatible' Android games.

Should be good!
 

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Here's a great video that shows Honeycomb on Nooks 7" screen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDFcKd-CPGI

There's even some gaming at the end.

I think that Google could optimize some of the screens, but the performance is solid on this little tablet. The Galaxy Tab should be flawless if this is any indication. The Nook is a good deal slower than the Tab.

It looks *great* on a 7" screen.
 

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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt View Post
Have you read this leaked memo by Elop?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/n...honest-burnin/

Yikes...
It's refreshing to see a CEO that will actually admit this... especially after the incredibly appalling behavior of the previous CEO. I'm glad to see he recognizes that they're standing on what might, right now, be a large platform but that it's quickly falling from under their feet. The previous administration in this company recognized their tall stature but failed to listen to their own engineers and customers that were hopping and pointing and shouting, "LOOK OUT! YOU'RE FALLING!" TMO is a pretty good mirror to the state of affairs. It went from a Tablet site with an active, productive community and a shared interest... to a confused site that can't even decide whether it's a tablet or a phone website (with plenty of new phone people coming in and upset with the experience) and a loud minority of people who hate those people that criticize and point out how the platform is failing and how it could be improved, instead of listening.

So far, he's impressed me. Now let's see if he'll improve the customer service experience and provide the kind of platform people can be happy with and hopefully without ruining the openness that their core Maemo/MeeGo fanboi's want, too. (i.e. be better than their competitors, instead of another me-too!)

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Fake, gay and fake.

This reads like it was written by one of those un-informed engadget pundits who like to hi-five cumwads all over each other while twit blogging on their facespace.

Delete this menace.
Yes, except that it wasn't. Does that make you cry or something? You seem very upset by this. Do you want to talk about it?

Originally Posted by Rebski View Post
The saddest part will be if it also brings down MeeGo.

Jobs and layoffs are inevitable already looking at the tumbling profit figures.

Edit update
It looks like MeeGo is not looking too healthy either.
http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-n9-00...ails-09131996/
But I thought Maemo and MeeGo were open-source? What happened to all that future-proof talk from Nokia? Oh right--Nokia has pooped all over their own brand REPEATELY.

Maemo was actually OPEN CORE and the failure of Nokia is like slapping handcuffs on the open-source crowd. Nice job there--that makes people like Nokia more, right? Credit to Google and Apple for at least not overselling their openness. Credit to Google for actually BEING more open-sourced than Nokia, even.

I still hold hope for MeeGo, but it seems as if Nokia has made half-hearted (or less) efforts at developing MeeGo. With their HARDWARE customer support issues, I'm not sure that their brand of hardware is where I would want to go with MeeGo anyway

Any hardware issues people had were met with frustrating and insulting customer support from Nokia with no localized facilities in the places the devices were being sold. Without a face-to-face encounter for support, Nokia presented customers with a faceless, hopeless corporate experience where you're given a discount on a FAR higher MSRP price--in my case, every time it was ALWAYS a discounted price far higher than what I'd originally paid. What's that all about? I wasn't the only one to experience that on a routine basis, from what I'd read.

The old Internet Tablet Crowd has mostly disappeared from this website. It's only fitting, really. We've lost a lot of smart, talented and motivated people because Nokia taught them the value of distrust in a brand. Good job. Great job, really.

I hope this new guy has genuinely learned from the company's mistakes and has the intention to repair the gaping wounds left by his predecessors.
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