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2010-08-17
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
If this community is to florish then it must come up with SOLID answers and up to now there simply is none at the moment (that should change in the future) so how can we get this community to work for us in the way we need it too?.
How do we achieve as a working team (members, proggrammers etc) a solid future for the N900 with Meego?.
Can we have some REAL answers that do not mean speculation or could be or would be......... solid answers to the future of our device is VERY much needed here.
As a last note from me i want you before commenting to realise that i in fact own 5 N900's so for me it is a very serious situation.
I have done various things with the hardware but am not prepared to give out details untill we have a FULLY open drivers source and a solid Meego OS to support the minor wiring changes i have made to enable USB OTG, HOST mode among other mods.
Answers?.
Considering you started this thread your stance on the wiring mod seem totally as odds with what you've posted.
Can you imagine people's faces if you actually released the information about the hardware mod.
Do you realise the gratitude you would receive from the community?
It would also confirm that you actually believe in what you type.
Your comments would gain a lot more respect and would be a token gesture towards helping the community.
I don't know exactly what the mods are and can only guess it is something to do with enabling the "host detect mode switch" and/or increasing the power line to one of the pins.
I cannot afford to experiment too much with my n900 because I rely on it to help me with my work.
You should lead by example and contribute something positive to the community and stand by the comments in your post.
Otherwise you'll be ridiculed by the rest of the community - exactly what is happening now.
With your years of hardware-based experience you are potentially a valuable member of the community and it's all going to waste.
It's a real shame.
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2010-08-17
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Johnel you are right in some of your words and i know you to be a good guy most of the time ! but i just cannot hack this damm abuse from the likes of ysss and his bloody followers and as much as i want to give i also have to remember standards i have worked to all my life and the mods are not in any way or form even safe and to be honest here Johnel it is bloody Nokia's fault and i really hate what they did with the N900 because if the stoopid design engineer had only thought a wee bit further afield he would have realised with the glowing potential our device has why the hell did he balls it up like this???? really infuriates me sometimes.
All i want to see on here is normal non abuse banter, ok laugh now and then but hell i will no way allow ANYONE to preach to me or demand or abuse my posts and it all started right in the beggining with this ysss and he is still bloodywell at it !.
Texrat dont help and i really dont understand his mentality because he is a really nice bloke most of the time but seemingly not only allows the abuse he actually fuels it by his comments, surely surely he must realise this.
I give up on here because it is just NOT nice at all sometimes and all i want is some talk from engineer to engineer because you know... i really DO love my N900 and am always fascinated by its capabilites but very frustrated by some of the outcomes all down to this stooid os it has that is just NOT open source as Nokia make it out to be.
Please please let us get back to basics and above all FRIENDLY talk and banter and just maybe i will give in but no way when pics of shite are allowed !!!.
If i go then it will be yet another loss and quite frankly i just dont feel like doing anything now because of the balony, anyhow keep up the good comments as i do enjoy some of your posts Johnel.
Last edited by abill_uk; 2010-08-17 at 11:18.
All i want to see on here is normal non abuse banter, ok laugh now and then but hell i will no way allow ANYONE to preach to me or demand or abuse my posts and it all started right in the beggining with this ysss and he is still bloodywell at it !.
Texrat dont help and i really dont understand his mentality because he is a really nice bloke most of the time but seemingly not only allows the abuse he actually fuels it by his comments, surely surely he must realise this.
I give up on here because it is just NOT nice at all sometimes and all i want is some talk from engineer to engineer because you know... i really DO love my N900 and am always fascinated by its capabilites but very frustrated by some of the outcomes all down to this stooid os it has that is just NOT open source as Nokia make it out to be.
Please please let us get back to basics and above all FRIENDLY talk and banter and just maybe i will give in but no way when pics of shite are allowed !!!.
If i go then it will be yet another loss and quite frankly i just dont feel like doing anything now because of the balony, anyhow keep up the good comments as i do enjoy some of your posts Johnel.
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2010-08-17
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#214
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
Hmmm. How should this be said to you? N900 future depends pretty much on living, evolving and even perishing community so there is no or will be "The answer" from community. Community is not one entity of something.
Can we have some REAL answers that do not mean speculation or could be or would be......... solid answers to the future of our device is VERY much needed here.
Nokia has itīs own business models and decisions so you should ask from them. Currently looks like they are fully going on Meego and on side developing/helping to make N900 version of it. Keeping your own usb-otg mod as hostage to get answers....well I don understand you. What is your logic here? I see no sense in that kind of actions. Just keep it as on your own information and Nokia will be happy, share it they will be happy, or pretty much they do not care. On the other hand community probably cares.
Yelling at local "Pimp my Ford ride club" how bad decisions Ford has made goes to empty walls. Actually people start hating you there if you just keep on going why Ford as company has failed.
btw.
I thought that there is already working mod for USB-OTG.
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2010-08-17
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
I preferred to sit on the sidelines after Chemist weighted in and gave a good (re)direction to this thread, but with direct attacks and slandering towards me that Abill posted, I just have to ask him what kind of abuse and attacks have I dished out?
Johnel you are right in some of your words and i know you to be a good guy most of the time ! but i just cannot hack this damm abuse from the likes of ysss and his bloody followers and as much as i want to give i also have to remember standards i have worked to all my life and the mods are not in any way or form even safe and to be honest here Johnel it is bloody Nokia's fault and i really hate what they did with the N900 because if the stoopid design engineer had only thought a wee bit further afield he would have realised with the glowing potential our device has why the hell did he balls it up like this???? really infuriates me sometimes.
All i want to see on here is normal non abuse banter, ok laugh now and then but hell i will no way allow ANYONE to preach to me or demand or abuse my posts and it all started right in the beggining with this ysss and he is still bloodywell at it !.
Texrat dont help and i really dont understand his mentality because he is a really nice bloke most of the time but seemingly not only allows the abuse he actually fuels it by his comments, surely surely he must realise this.
I give up on here because it is just NOT nice at all sometimes and all i want is some talk from engineer to engineer because you know... i really DO love my N900 and am always fascinated by its capabilites but very frustrated by some of the outcomes all down to this stooid os it has that is just NOT open source as Nokia make it out to be.
Please please let us get back to basics and above all FRIENDLY talk and banter and just maybe i will give in but no way when pics of shite are allowed !!!.
If i go then it will be yet another loss and quite frankly i just dont feel like doing anything now because of the balony, anyhow keep up the good comments as i do enjoy some of your posts Johnel.
Make me an example, I don't mind.
Tell me what I've said wrong in this thread?
Back up your claims.
All I've seen are just more fictitious claims from you and you're very good at blaming the community, the mods, Nokia, 'the forum buddies club' and the universe for everything that you think is going wrong in your life.
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2010-08-17
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Would you mind to get back on topic? Answer the questions, bring up some proof!
I try to be gentle and peaceful but soon my mouse will hover the close button and "click", this discussion about moderation and if this is Nokia or not is over!
I know you get a hard time here but you are asking for it, at least sometimes I am feeling you want to be punched! (I didn't yet, did I?)
[This community is financed by Nokia yes but it is still a free community and "we" here are no nokian engineers answering you questions. Maemo5 is alive as long as the community keeps it alive and maybe we get closed drivers upgraded or even sourced by Nokia if we kindly ask for it the day Nokia drops the whole MaemoX.]
I try to be gentle and peaceful but soon my mouse will hover the close button and "click", this discussion about moderation and if this is Nokia or not is over!
I know you get a hard time here but you are asking for it, at least sometimes I am feeling you want to be punched! (I didn't yet, did I?)
[This community is financed by Nokia yes but it is still a free community and "we" here are no nokian engineers answering you questions. Maemo5 is alive as long as the community keeps it alive and maybe we get closed drivers upgraded or even sourced by Nokia if we kindly ask for it the day Nokia drops the whole MaemoX.]
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2010-08-17
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
I am prepared to keep flooding t.m.o with opinions. *nod*what is this community prepared to do for us regarding the N900?
And in this I feel I am representative for a lot of community members, many of which aren't using an N900 phone.
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2010-08-17
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Originally Posted by slender
Ok firstly this community has a LOT of very good engineers both hardware and software wise but i feel it is not getting even close to sorting out Maemo because i feel it is not working as a team mainly due to arguments and ill fate i guess working with Nokia products and the lack of support from them.
Hmmm. How should this be said to you? N900 future depends pretty much on living, evolving and even perishing community so there is no or will be "The answer" from community. Community is not one entity of something.
Nokia has itīs own business models and decisions so you should ask from them. Currently looks like they are fully going on Meego and on side developing/helping to make N900 version of it. Keeping your own usb-otg mod as hostage to get answers....well I don understand you. What is your logic here? I see no sense in that kind of actions. Just keep it as on your own information and Nokia will be happy, share it they will be happy, or pretty much they do not care. On the other hand community probably cares.
Yelling at local "Pimp my Ford ride club" how bad decisions Ford has made goes to empty walls. Actually people start hating you there if you just keep on going why Ford as company has failed.
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I thought that there is already working mod for USB-OTG.
Yes you are right i feel that Nokia are going full at Meego and that has rather taken the heart out of a lot of people because it is being ceased alltogether.
I am NOT holding back because i want something i am holding solid because it is NOT a safe and easy mod to do, look get a bloody Nokia design engineer here and let HIM explain why the usb tranciever is wired wrong !.
Who wants to drill holes in the case? who wants to make a mistake and screw it all up because i tell you it is so so easy to do that, just take an N900 apart and see yourself !.
I did also state it has potentially an earning aspect for me and i am believe it or not allowed to make money from this !.
I also read the balony yet again from ysss after your post and i am not even going to reply as i have totally had it with that guy now after the shite picture and the VERY cleverly written words to incite aggravation as he always does from day one!.
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2010-08-17
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Originally Posted by chemist
Ok flog a dead horse because i dont want no part in a dead OS !.
Would you mind to get back on topic? Answer the questions, bring up some proof!
I try to be gentle and peaceful but soon my mouse will hover the close button and "click", this discussion about moderation and if this is Nokia or not is over!
I know you get a hard time here but you are asking for it, at least sometimes I am feeling you want to be punched! (I didn't yet, did I?)
[This community is financed by Nokia yes but it is still a free community and "we" here are no nokian engineers answering you questions. Maemo5 is alive as long as the community keeps it alive and maybe we get closed drivers upgraded or even sourced by Nokia if we kindly ask for it the day Nokia drops the whole MaemoX.]
Be a jolly good chap old boy and close this thread because it has been hounded to death and completely and utterly screwed!.
Your a Maemo fanatic and Meego is going to beat you and i cannot do anything about that sorry.
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2010-08-17
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
Personally, I think most of the people who were able to do anything has jumped ship (as in off talk.maemo.org/maemo.org) already, not completely unrelated to all the idiotic threads now here, instead of constructive ones..
Ok firstly this community has a LOT of very good engineers both hardware and software wise but i feel it is not getting even close to sorting out Maemo because i feel it is not working as a team mainly due to arguments and ill fate i guess working with Nokia products and the lack of support from them
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On a further vent i will also say to anyone readong this that i have been accused of not contributing anything to this forum... what about the usb detachment problem, did i not tell everyone exactly how do deal with this as a proper and permanent repair ! and as it is the only real problem it has i think i did provide some valuable help !.
Your N900 is same as my main one that it runs smooth and without problems at all as i dont install dev material but what will you feel when Meego goes live on a similar device with a proper based and solid adaptable OS?.
Meamo is what it is and will not get much better unless someone is prepared to completely re-write the OS and to do that means drivers so how is possible?.
The official Nokia forum i want to say is nothing as good as this one with the ease of use and its many many sections, it could never match this one in my opinion.
PLease someone realise about the flaming abuse on here because it MUST be dealt with .... really !.