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2012-08-07
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Originally Posted by ranbaxy
HTC will hit a brick wall in Q3 and then it is free falling. HTC pioneered WM and Android, as well as WP. Within a year they will be gone. A bit sad, I have had a couple of HTCs.
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2012-08-07
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I can't honestly say that I've got any sort of curiousity for any new Lumia branded products. At all. They are, in my book, completely irrelevant products.
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2012-08-07
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Originally Posted by volt
I'm looking for a LUMIA PAD. But surface pro is the top of the line. Lumia phone. Sure, If my employer pay for it. Why not?
I can't honestly say that I've got any sort of curiousity for any new Lumia branded products. At all. They are, in my book, completely irrelevant products.
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I don't trust poeple without a Nokia n900...
Do something for the climate today! Anything!
I don't trust poeple without a Nokia n900...
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2012-08-07
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The email client on LUMIAs is the best. Beats iphone and other platforms. Lumias will be corporate soon.
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2012-08-07
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Originally Posted by specc
S40 may well be NOKIA's 'main business' now but, lest we forget...
Nokias problem is size. It's too large to sustain selling S40 and S30 devices even though sales are shifting dramatically toward the more expensive S40 devices. It needs to shrink more. Accelerated growth of WP would help of course, but that is not a solution Nokia can live with, it needs to become profitable in it's main business of S30 and S40.
"Elop's Microsoft announcement has effectively bankrupted the Nokia Symbian smartphone unit which made 20% of Nokia phones, generated 30% of Nokia revenues and produced a whopping 40% of Nokia profits when he took over. He killed his cash cow. Voluntarily."
... T. Ahonen
Originally Posted by specc
Where's your evidence for that? It seems much more likely Elop's Lord and Master told him he wasn't allowed to play with anything Linux.
Meltemi proved to be a dead end road, the team couldn't deliver something that was more competitive than S40.
Originally Posted by specc
The Ashas are more interesting than the Lumias. The Asha 303 looks like it should be a slider, if it was I'd quite like one.
S40 gives more bang for the buck than anything out there, and it is selling by the billions, literally, but it is no solution for high end, and it is no solution for Europe or NA. Here the competition is iOS and Android.
Originally Posted by specc
Since dropping Symbian for WP7 NOKIA's gross margin for smartphones has reduced significantly.
Not only high end, but that is where the profit margins are.
Originally Posted by specc
Yeah, right...
Samsung looks unbeatable, but Samsung is no innovator.
Originally Posted by specc
Say what? What could be more 'blocky' and 'conservative' than WP7? Live Tiles are the blockiest, dullest Plasmoids I've ever seen!
Lots of people will dislike it, simply because it doesn't fit their blocky, conservative skulls.
WP is somewhat similar. WP7 has limitations, but I tell you, my Lumia is much more fun with new stuff coming all the time than the stale N9.
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2012-08-07
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Samsung looks unbeatable, but Samsung is no innovator.
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2012-08-07
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Originally Posted by Rugoz
And where would that be?
Its a shame that people never understand where truly valuable innovation comes from.
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2012-08-08
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Originally Posted by Rugoz
you mean Microsoft?
Its a shame that people never understand where truly valuable innovation comes from.
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2012-08-08
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Originally Posted by Rugoz
Enlighten us please
Its a shame that people never understand where truly valuable innovation comes from.
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2012-08-08
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Well, I shouldn't make any generalizations but at the moment, Samsung is the company that brings new product to the market that people buy. LG may be earlier with some features but people don't buy it. And South Korea as a whole is much less playing catch-up than five years ago, three years ago.
Also, even China is starting to innovate. They're well aware that they've been a follower for all these years, and are trying to change their engineers straight out of the educational system. If they can manage to drop the idea of only copying the best, the rest of the world is in trouble.
There's no telling who is innovating at any given time, all products we see now are the results of a mainstreaming process that takes years to reach the market.
Last edited by volt; 2012-08-08 at 06:08. Reason: "Korea as a whole" will still be playing catch up for quite some time, so let me rephrase as "South Korea as a whole".
Also, even China is starting to innovate. They're well aware that they've been a follower for all these years, and are trying to change their engineers straight out of the educational system. If they can manage to drop the idea of only copying the best, the rest of the world is in trouble.
There's no telling who is innovating at any given time, all products we see now are the results of a mainstreaming process that takes years to reach the market.
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Last edited by volt; 2012-08-08 at 06:08. Reason: "Korea as a whole" will still be playing catch up for quite some time, so let me rephrase as "South Korea as a whole".
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