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shmerl	2011-05-23 , 16:46
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Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix

the fact that there 'will' be a kbd device at all, post elopolypse, is merely an accident of fate in that a device was put into limited production before the software was stable enough to ship it.

I'd say it stronger, the fact that there will be a Meego/Harmattan device at all after "elopocalypse" is merely an accident. But it doesn't mean that some users don't want hw keybard device still

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	Verythrax	2011-05-23 , 16:47
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Originally Posted by IsaacDFP

I apologize in advance if it has been said before... But... Has it been speculated that the keyboard device will be Maemo6 and that the keyboardless one will be MeeGo ?
Could that be a possible outcome?

I understand what you mean, but besides the people here in the forum that make the distinction between harmattan and MeeGo, this distinction doesn't exists, marketwise.

Even if it's true, Nokia will advertise both as MeeGo

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Koajwujwer123	2011-05-23 , 16:47
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Originally Posted by IsaacDFP

I apologize in advance if it has been said before... But... Has it been speculated that the keyboard device will be Maemo6 and that the keyboardless one will be MeeGo ?
Could that be a possible outcome?

have not seen keyboard phone but have been told same OS on both. MAkes no sense for 2 different OS as well

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	Verythrax	2011-05-23 , 16:50
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http://sf2011.meego.com/program/live-streaming

Live stream is ready.

10 min to go

PS: reading this thread and waiting for the streaming listening to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ue7V...=23&playnext=1
Man, it really adds a dramatic effect

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mikecomputing	2011-05-23 , 16:52
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Originally Posted by misterc

check my last post...
i'm not here for a vendetta, i'm here because i sincerely believe that the successor of the N900 should have a keyboard and i can't help thinking NOKIA thinks so too.
in the line of 770 to N900, how many had a keyboard?
all, except one, not the last one.
they bring out as many (if not more?) kbd devices as touch screen only devices.
would it make sense to make a t.s. dev, just like a lottery?
thus, i'm ready to accept the unpleasant idea that you are right, unpleasant not because you would be right, but because
- i don't like the prospect
- i have a hard time believing NOKIA would make such a crappy choice, thus until i see proof (~= official announcment i guess), i'll fight it.

if you are wrong, you are welcome to stay.
maybe, take a moment to read my previous post ?

Above was post not for me and I should respond to you after what you said yesterday. but it looks like your not that "childish" as yesterday I give you a new chance and my opinion on HWKB.

About the HWKB:

Dont you think it has changed alot since n900/n800? those handsets was for "geeks". N900 was "4 of 5" even if Nokia has changed the plans going WP7 the plan 5 was for "the masses"

As we all know the masses dont care about hwkeyboards. Take a look outhere? most people is using some kind of "slim devices" like Iphone or some Android without keyboard.

There is a very few Androids with keyboard and my personal guess they is not bigsellers.

So my point is if the plan from begining (before MrFlop) was make a handset for the masses. And even if the plan has changed it is important they sell as many Meego devices as possible this year. Reason is simple WP7 is not ready for Nokia and bussiness people was money now. Thats why Nokia probadly will only sell a device that sells alot and costs as little as possible.

I am sure HWKB variant costs alot more. Cause of smaller series and also different lkaytout in different countrys and so on.

It maybe true the plan was from start two devices one with hwkb(small series) one without but that was before MrFlop.

But personally I think hw variant will not be released anymore. There maybe will be an already made testserie who knows. Or I maybbe is totally wrong to just give my personal opinion on this.

I would'nd mind too be wrong here. I want both devices :-D

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martin-357	2011-05-23 , 16:53
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Originally Posted by shmerl

I'd say it stronger, the fact that there will be a Meego/Harmattan device at all after "elopocalypse" is merely an accident. But it doesn't mean that some users don't want hw keybard device still

I don't know about an accident, I believe there are people working at Nokia who support MeeGo, and Eflop might be the CEO but he doesn't have absolute power.

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	NvyUs	2011-05-23 , 16:55
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Originally Posted by Verythrax

http://sf2011.meego.com/program/live-streaming

Live stream is ready.

10 min to go

PS: reading this thread and waiting for the streaming listening to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ue7V...=23&playnext=1
Man, it really adds a dramatic effect

you are not going to get device launches in the main keynotes, It is not the Platform for individual Companies to be launching products.

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	Verythrax	2011-05-23 , 16:56
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Originally Posted by NvyUs

you are not going to get device launches in the main keynotes

Yeah, I'm not THAT hopeful for it, but I thought people would be interested in that link, anyway.

On a second thought, I should had gone with a new topic for it.

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	misterc	2011-05-23 , 16:57
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Originally Posted by IsaacDFP

I apologize in advance if it has been said before... But... Has it been speculated that the keyboard device will be Maemo6 and that the keyboardless one will be MeeGo ?
Could that be a possible outcome?

this thread is in fact the fusion of two threads that happened here http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1923
one of the thread (the longer one whose title has been dropped) was about the OS on the device in the teaser, either MeeGo or Harmattan / Maemo.
i'm not sure whether there was any agreement about that.
the thread expanded on the specifications of the device, one of twhich was whether of not the MeeGo device to be released by NOKIA in 2011 would be another device, without keyboard, the n the one hinted @ in the video and the FCC certification.
the general opinion (not shared by everyone) was that the keyboard device would be for developers (& would be distributed this week in SF to as many developers as possible) and a touch screen only device that would be the consumer device to come out this year.
it seemed to make sense both to have the same OS of course, but no agreement on what that would be, exactly

apparently the admin felt this could be joined here.

Last edited by misterc; 2011-05-23 at 17:03.