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2009-08-20
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The one problem is see due to the lack of hardware buttons is this..
Suppose you are using the full screen view of the web browser and you want to go to other open windows or applications.... In the n810 u can just click the multi-task button and select the window/app you want.
But for the n900 you need to go out of the full screen mode of the web browser by pressing the transparent button on the screen.. aka web digi@web, which takes you to the windowed web browser screen... then you click on the multi-task button on the top left corner.. and then again press the window/app you want to use...
If that is true.... that is definitely a regression.
In my opinion they should have all three hardware keys on the side of the device...They did not give us the 4.13 screen... they could have atleast given us those buttons.
Suppose you are using the full screen view of the web browser and you want to go to other open windows or applications.... In the n810 u can just click the multi-task button and select the window/app you want.
But for the n900 you need to go out of the full screen mode of the web browser by pressing the transparent button on the screen.. aka web digi@web, which takes you to the windowed web browser screen... then you click on the multi-task button on the top left corner.. and then again press the window/app you want to use...
If that is true.... that is definitely a regression.
In my opinion they should have all three hardware keys on the side of the device...They did not give us the 4.13 screen... they could have atleast given us those buttons.
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2009-08-20
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[QUOTE=sevla;313616]If anything it presents a learning curve for using the phone.
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Another point I thing conventional minds will complain about - "OMG, where is the Cancel button, I can only save, I can't cancel? That's a HUGE learning curve ... blah blah "
Yes it a another learning curve for those unwilling to learn new techniques which work better for the mobile paradigm.
This is one of my main points - that a mobile device should have a mobile interface suited to the use. Thanks to Nokia for putting in the thoughts in making Maemo 5 more mobile friendly - who needs a cancel button when you can click outside a modal window to cancel the form...
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Another point I thing conventional minds will complain about - "OMG, where is the Cancel button, I can only save, I can't cancel? That's a HUGE learning curve ... blah blah "
Yes it a another learning curve for those unwilling to learn new techniques which work better for the mobile paradigm.
This is one of my main points - that a mobile device should have a mobile interface suited to the use. Thanks to Nokia for putting in the thoughts in making Maemo 5 more mobile friendly - who needs a cancel button when you can click outside a modal window to cancel the form...
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2009-08-20
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Originally Posted by candas1
What if this is a task-bar button - to bring up the multi-task taskbar by a hardware key ?
The shape next to the button.
It's not a button, could it be an IR port ?
I agree with you, IR ports are mostly too weak to use the device as a remote, I was just dreaming
That could solve the full-screen to non-full sreen to press taskbar button steps.
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2009-08-20
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Originally Posted by nilchak
May be it is a screen lock button something like the iphone uses on the top?
What if this is a task-bar button - to bring up the multi-task taskbar by a hardware key ?
That could solve the full-screen to non-full sreen to press taskbar button steps.
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2009-08-20
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How about backplate release button ?
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2009-08-20
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Originally Posted by nilchak
So close to the camera button?
What if this is a task-bar button - to bring up the multi-task taskbar by a hardware key ?
Wild speculation: If the camera button acts as the shutter release, then the square next to it could sense when a finger is in place to take a photo. It would be the equivalent of a half-press of the shutter release on traditional cameras, engaging autofocus, etc.
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2009-08-20
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Originally Posted by attila77
The back plate release is on the side above the 3.5 mm plug.
How about backplate release button ?
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2009-08-20
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Originally Posted by nilchak
Saying it's "better" is your opinion. Also most people on this forum do not constitute the "laymen" user. Judging from reactions to pictures and other comments I've seen the AVERAGE user will automatically have an aversion to the keyboard. You said it solved a "problem" but I don't recall anyone complaining about the position of the spacebar on 4 row devices.
Well. its just that you refuse to look at solving real problems by looking out of the box. Thats what Nokia did - they bettered the keyboard ergonomins by placing the space there for a reason - its under your thumb and you the space bar is always thumbed.
I am glad that some companies try to innovate and better a common design by looking at the use case scenario. For any handheld device in landscape mode this keyboard with space bar is better than the older conventional style.
Lastly, placing the space bar to the right forces the use of the right thumb. I'm right handed so it doesn't pose a problem for me but how does it affect left handed people? Should they be forced to press the space button with the right thumb (when they'd rather use there left) simply because Nokia thinks it's "better"? It's the most frequently pressed key while typing and having it in the middle gives the user an option of using left or right fingers (or thumb in this case). Space bars are in the middle for a reason.
But I digress. If you guys like it, great.
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2009-08-20
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Originally Posted by nilchak
... oh. That's what it's for. Probably I just don't have one of those.
...work better for the mobile paradigm.
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I've gotta say, I think the Pro2 looks more expensive, too. I think the N810 looks higher quality than the N900. Design wise.