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2009-09-25
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Originally Posted by twaelti
My question would be WHY would they listen to his feedack? Again this comes down to the way the device was obtained etc. Nokia have a QA team they make sign NDA agreements who's feedback they do listen to. You cannot expect a company to go
I would be very glad if some people here could stop bashing eldar. The tone of their posts is not appropriate, disrespectful and falls out of the usual constructive discussions here on t.m.o.
As I said, I have appreciated mobile-review for many years. This specific N900 situation is sure a bit unfortunate, but probably part of "the game". OTOH, it won't Nokia cost a thing to listen to Eldar's feedback. They can only win from it. And we Maemo "fans" can only win from the feedback from someone with a bit a broader and enduser-oriented perspective.
And yes, English is not everyones mother language.
"Sweet you somehow obtained a device illegally (we can only assume since we didnt give it to you), and you are bashing our yet to be released OS/phone. Please let us listen jump to attention and listen to you"
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mrojas
Sometimes I do a favour for some companies and send bug reports etc. Not in this particular case of N900.
Next thing - please read what I write before.
My work is different. And I dont care about products, companies much. Due to one reason - I write about all devices/companies. For you may be N900 is a single device, for me one among others. Good to check, but not the ultimate one
N900 are producing now. It means that SW is installed on device now. Not tomorrow, not in October or November. Now. And it wont be updated in a shop. May be it will be updated before going to shelfs. May be. But changes wont be dramatic.
ragnar
Moblin issue is a power consumption, they heavily trying to build small devices but without real success. I see the market for such devices (limited market) by 2011. Not earlier. Depends from hardware.
Bratag
Android is not very strong by now, it is a part of Google strategy. But Samsung wont be a very active 2010-2011 in this field. So it will be SE (most high tier products based on Android X -line - 3 are coming)
Motorola heavily trying to return. And some chineese/taiwaneese companies. Of course HTC. But they all toghether arent strong
Popularity of Android is the question of popularity of next big services from Google which will be shown to public in beginning of 2011 or later
Laughing Man
We discussed this topic in preview of N900 - i called this vertical market - Maemo is the part of such market for Nokia. It will be 3d party devices like MID, later some other devices (may be PND for instance), later even sub-notebooks etc. All kind of devices from different companies.
The same story for others. Apple will have different devices in house. Some others not.
Sometimes I do a favour for some companies and send bug reports etc. Not in this particular case of N900.
Next thing - please read what I write before.
My work is different. And I dont care about products, companies much. Due to one reason - I write about all devices/companies. For you may be N900 is a single device, for me one among others. Good to check, but not the ultimate one
N900 are producing now. It means that SW is installed on device now. Not tomorrow, not in October or November. Now. And it wont be updated in a shop. May be it will be updated before going to shelfs. May be. But changes wont be dramatic.
ragnar
Moblin issue is a power consumption, they heavily trying to build small devices but without real success. I see the market for such devices (limited market) by 2011. Not earlier. Depends from hardware.
Bratag
Android is not very strong by now, it is a part of Google strategy. But Samsung wont be a very active 2010-2011 in this field. So it will be SE (most high tier products based on Android X -line - 3 are coming)
Motorola heavily trying to return. And some chineese/taiwaneese companies. Of course HTC. But they all toghether arent strong
Popularity of Android is the question of popularity of next big services from Google which will be shown to public in beginning of 2011 or later
Laughing Man
We discussed this topic in preview of N900 - i called this vertical market - Maemo is the part of such market for Nokia. It will be 3d party devices like MID, later some other devices (may be PND for instance), later even sub-notebooks etc. All kind of devices from different companies.
The same story for others. Apple will have different devices in house. Some others not.
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Originally Posted by ragnar
Actually, it looks more like coming out of the closet to me...
Welcome aboard, Eldar.
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2009-09-25
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Originally Posted by twaelti
Could you provide a link re the last statement? I've been following this thread and must have missed any linguistic intolerance (cuz that would be sh*tty if there was any).
I would be very glad if some people here could stop bashing eldar. The tone of their posts is not appropriate, disrespectful and falls out of the usual constructive discussions here on t.m.o.
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And yes, English is not everyones mother language.
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2009-09-25
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@jandmdickerson, @Laughing Man, @bbin
There is no "jailbraking" in N900 case.
I was just too bored to write anything more than that.
BTW I'm 4 years old. :P
There is no "jailbraking" in N900 case.
I was just too bored to write anything more than that.
BTW I'm 4 years old. :P
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2009-09-25
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Originally Posted by penguinbait
I laughed hard at qgil's photo..... very nice.
It's from the council uniform page
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=27714&page=6
Although the final costumes were much better.
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2009-09-25
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Well I didn't really mention android other than to give a small fact about custom ROMs.
Look my final word on this is as follows.
I think a lot of people would be far more likely to be more tolerant and more objective about the review if
a) Eldar told us where/how he got the device.
b) He provided a screenshot showing the current level of firmware on it.
I think if he provided those two things it would put a lot of the commentary here to bed.
Look my final word on this is as follows.
I think a lot of people would be far more likely to be more tolerant and more objective about the review if
a) Eldar told us where/how he got the device.
b) He provided a screenshot showing the current level of firmware on it.
I think if he provided those two things it would put a lot of the commentary here to bed.
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2009-09-25
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Originally Posted by eldarmurtazin
I'm trying to understand this, I really do.
mrojas
Sometimes I do a favour for some companies and send bug reports etc. Not in this particular case of N900.
Next thing - please read what I write before.
Did Nokia actually give you a device, without you having to sign a NDA or anything so you could review a unfinished hw/sw (I assume, haven't seen you say you got the final hw+sw anywhere, I might be wrong though)? And without helping out with reporting any bugs you might find while doing this "review"? Yes/No?
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Problem with fMMS? Run in x-terminal: cp /tmp/fmms.log /home/user/MyDocs/
After that you'll see fmms.log in filemanager or when you connect the device to your desktop as a mass storage device.
E-mail the log to me, if you don't have the email address, drop me a PM. Thanks!
fMMS - MMS for your N900
fAPN - GUI for adding a new GPRS APN
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Problem with fMMS? Run in x-terminal: cp /tmp/fmms.log /home/user/MyDocs/
After that you'll see fmms.log in filemanager or when you connect the device to your desktop as a mass storage device.
E-mail the log to me, if you don't have the email address, drop me a PM. Thanks!
fMMS - MMS for your N900
fAPN - GUI for adding a new GPRS APN
If you like this post, don't be shy to thank me -->
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Originally Posted by tmo profile
lolabout eldarmurtazin
location
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n920
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a) might have already been resolved
b) issues that are specific just to your unit (especially if it's a hardware difference)
But I do agree, people should in general report any issues, bugs. And suggestions.