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2010-02-19
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Originally Posted by lemmyslender
I dunno what to say about timelines.
But how long will we wait for the resolution? If a program is found that bricks devices, an announcement should be made immediately (and probably stickied), with a resolution added later.
I'm not as concerned with the resolution as I am passing along pertinent information in a timely manner.
But notification that process has been started by a regulatory body along with status reports of progress and resolutions should be the main, minimum concern in any form of jurisprudence.
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2010-02-19
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Originally Posted by Rauha
I have only approached this topic at a high level, not detailed.
It's one thing to say this should be approached silently, and other thing to clearly provide information to end users how the silent approach should be handled.
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2010-02-19
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Please forget what he did for a moment and concentrate how he did it.
Multiple log-ins.
This can be checked against IP and email addy at registration automagicly... and should be... but apparently it is not.
If not, anything that is decided by one member, one vote on maemo.org could be affected.
How many votes decided the membership of the Community Council?
How hard would it be for bogus member #1 to thank bogus member #2 in order to build karma.. and so on?
Now that this is out in the open, I can say that this is what prompted my objection to reporting vote tallies while the polls were open in the last election. When given a goal to achieve, some people will find inspiration.
This is what has always motivated me to question why the hell single sign-on across maemo.org sites has not been initiated. It would make cross checking a whole lot easier.
What this fellow did, and how he did it, did not require an advanced degree in rocket science. Preventing, or at least reducing the possibility of multiple log-ins doesn't either.
Who can make it happen?
What can, and is being done about that?
Multiple log-ins.
This can be checked against IP and email addy at registration automagicly... and should be... but apparently it is not.
If not, anything that is decided by one member, one vote on maemo.org could be affected.
How many votes decided the membership of the Community Council?
How hard would it be for bogus member #1 to thank bogus member #2 in order to build karma.. and so on?
Now that this is out in the open, I can say that this is what prompted my objection to reporting vote tallies while the polls were open in the last election. When given a goal to achieve, some people will find inspiration.
This is what has always motivated me to question why the hell single sign-on across maemo.org sites has not been initiated. It would make cross checking a whole lot easier.
What this fellow did, and how he did it, did not require an advanced degree in rocket science. Preventing, or at least reducing the possibility of multiple log-ins doesn't either.
Who can make it happen?
What can, and is being done about that?
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2010-02-19
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#285
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Originally Posted by Texrat
That could work.
*sigh*
- approach silently
- announce process start publicly
- announce resolution publicly
- put away torches and pitchforks and move on
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2010-02-19
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Originally Posted by YoDude
Well.. there has been *some* mitigation done:
Who can make it happen?
What can, and is being done about that?
X-Fade's Post
It requires Karma now, and shows a registered since.
Don't know if they fixed the duplicate emails or ip check though.
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2010-02-19
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#287
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You know, all of this could have been avoided if the requirement for a few votes from a tester's group was implemented
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Classic example of arbitrary Nokia decision making. Couldn't just fallback to the no brainer of tagging with lat/lon if network isn't accessible, could you Nokia?
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2010-02-19
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#288
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So, lets try a few concrete(ish) policy proposals:
Does that sound like a reasonable starting point?
- One maemo.org account, one person. No account to be used by multiple people, no person to have access to multiple accounts.
- Suspected breaches of policy or abuse of resources to be referred to a body (the Council?) for investigation/decision,
- After an investigation that body will make a public report of the facts, and any action taken in response.
Does that sound like a reasonable starting point?
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2010-02-19
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#289
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Since MeeGo supports working groups, I would replace council with Tester Working Group. But yeah, that.
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2010-02-20
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#290
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I'm using the term wrong but mutiple accounts for one user is what I mean.
>> http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=199077
Last edited by YoDude; 2010-02-20 at 00:24.
It happens all of the time. Some members will make multiple accounts to back their own opinion or get an extra vote in a poll. Here's a modification that will detect and prevent multiple accounts, as well as notify the administration about multiple accounts. Inspiration for this modification came from the work of MPDev (creator of the Multiple Account Login Detector) and randominity (creator of the Multiple Account Registration Prevention). This is basically a combination of those two modifications but with new and improved functionality.
>> http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=199077
Last edited by YoDude; 2010-02-20 at 00:24.
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