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NotTheMessiah is offline NotTheMessiah
2010-04-19 , 00:12
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well without reading 306 pages of posts! (who can honestly blame me!) I'd say yeah it must be possible, however, probably a rather bad idea for two main reasons, 1. severly reduced battery life and 2. over heating. I'm sure many of you are aware of the BGA problems nvidia chips have had in laptops in recent years. I cant be 100% sure on this but i'd be surprised if i was wrong but I would assume the cpu in the n900 is connected using a BGA, these tend to fail with excessive heat because the solder fatigues and cracks. So given that i think overclocking would ultimately result it hardware failure. Just my two cents worth.
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2010-04-19 , 00:32
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Originally Posted by NotTheMessiah View Post
well without reading 306 pages of posts! (who can honestly blame me!) I'd say yeah it must be possible, however, probably a rather bad idea for two main reasons, 1. severly reduced battery life and 2. over heating. I'm sure many of you are aware of the BGA problems nvidia chips have had in laptops in recent years. I cant be 100% sure on this but i'd be surprised if i was wrong but I would assume the cpu in the n900 is connected using a BGA, these tend to fail with excessive heat because the solder fatigues and cracks. So given that i think overclocking would ultimately result it hardware failure. Just my two cents worth.

The value of your post is cut by half (to one cent) because you didn't grasp that lots of people started happily overclocking as a result of this thread. It's absolutely correct that overclocking will ultimately result in hardware failure. That was discussed a lot. The question is, when is ultimately? How long do people plan to keep using their phones, anyway?

Many people reached the conclusion that they were going to use their phones for maybe a few years and that better, faster operation was easily worth risking hardware failure if the hardware was likely to last a few years. We concluded that it was and decided to go on.
 
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2010-04-19 , 00:36
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Originally Posted by geneven View Post
The value of your post is cut by half (to one cent) because you didn't grasp that lots of people started happily overclocking as a result of this thread. It's absolutely correct that overclocking will ultimately result in hardware failure. That was discussed a lot. The question is, when is ultimately? How long do people plan to keep using their phones, anyway?

Many people reached the conclusion that they were going to use their phones for maybe a few years and that better, faster operation was easily worth risking hardware failure if the hardware was likely to last a few years. We concluded that it was and decided to go on.
Yes, i do quite agree with you there. Like i said i didnt read 306 pages of posts. Dont have that much of my time to spare haha. But yeah, i think it is a question of when the ultimate failure will happen. Personally, i wouldnt like to take the risk but that said i would like to see the results in terms of performance increase. Perhaps if i could afford to replace the device should it fail i would try it.
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UNderworld is offline UNderworld
2010-04-19 , 00:42
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Hi, I noticed the phone app sets the min to 250 only temporarily???
because after a reboot, my phone is at 500 again.. just confirming!!
 
gabby131 is offline gabby131
2010-04-19 , 00:50
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Originally Posted by nokian-series View Post
Normaly, you dont need to sudo gainroot !
Before Re-flash, i save lot of scripts i have, and i only have, for example:

sudo echo 500000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq

And now, it just gives me permission dennied :S

I dont know much of linux commands but..nothing related do chmod ?! :S

Helppp, i just reflash my phone and now it's 'closed' to my commands :S
have you installes kernel-flasher-maemo?
 
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2010-04-19 , 02:36
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Ola

TITAN definitely fried my N900.

I followed his advice, and waited for the battery Cool, even more so he does not care Reloads.

also can not plug it in Flash Mode.

Tomorrow I'll open it to see if it caused any physical damage, and post some photos.

I was playing it, and my watch was at least 850MHz, 1GHz maximum.


Poor Mu N900, I'm very sad
 
UNderworld is offline UNderworld
2010-04-19 , 03:13
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Originally Posted by maykon-de-angra View Post
Ola

TITAN definitely fried my N900.

I followed his advice, and waited for the battery Cool, even more so he does not care Reloads.
did he tell you to put your n900 on 850mhz minimum???
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2010-04-19 , 03:34
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Originally Posted by maykon-de-angra View Post
Ola

TITAN definitely fried my N900.

I followed his advice, and waited for the battery Cool, even more so he does not care Reloads.

also can not plug it in Flash Mode.

Tomorrow I'll open it to see if it caused any physical damage, and post some photos.

I was playing it, and my watch was at least 850MHz, 1GHz maximum.


Poor Mu N900, I'm very sad
hmmm....i believe you know that overclocking your device is at your own risk.

so far you're the first (or second) to report a fried device.

give your n900 a chance, might be okay tomorrow.

if not, i'll be watching your updates when you dismantle your device, pls upload photos.......XD
 
lvlonkey is offline lvlonkey
2010-04-19 , 04:11
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#3069
didnt seem like a good idea to use a clock speed higher than the maximum stock clock for a minimum anyways...
 
Magel282 is offline Magel282
2010-04-19 , 04:13
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Originally Posted by maykon-de-angra View Post
Ola

TITAN definitely fried my N900.

I followed his advice, and waited for the battery Cool, even more so he does not care Reloads.

also can not plug it in Flash Mode.

Tomorrow I'll open it to see if it caused any physical damage, and post some photos.

I was playing it, and my watch was at least 850MHz, 1GHz maximum.


Poor Mu N900, I'm very sad
I wonder how many more of these sort of posts we'll start seeing in the coming months.
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