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Hi!
I've been using Xournal for note-taking for a while now and I have a few suggestions and feature requests
Firstly, I love that it automatically fills in the name field with the date and time (saves time when quickly saving and opening a new note), but it would be nice if it remembered the last successfully saved-to folder, so you don't always have to traverse the file system when saving or exporting a lot of notes.
That brings me to the export option. I really like that you can export PDF files easily as it makes notes portable and reusable in other apps.
In that note, I'd love some more export options, like:
Exporting is a bit of a chore if you have a lot of notes though, due to the above mentioned remember-folder issue. That said, Xournal could have command line options (which it already might have, but I'm not aware of them), which would allow instant export of Xournal save files to other file formats (provided as the argument and/or implied from file extension). Exporting a lot of them wouldn't bother me so much if the last folder exported to was remembered though
A feature that would really help with note-taking / sketching would be the ability to expand the canvas either automagically (which could create an infinite canvas to draw to) or something along the lines of the Sketch application that came with the N900 (buttons to expand the canvas to left/right/top/bottom).
I'm not sure what expanding the canvas would do to the export-to-PDF option, possibly scaling the canvas to fit the PDF page? There should be no problems if you added the export-to-PNG option though
Sharing is nice too, but it'd be even nicer if you didn't have to save an arbitrary PDF somewhere (it could probably save a temporary one somewhere, but that might bring some problems?). I guess it could be nice if it had an insta-share function that would capture the current contents of the page and automatically upload to a site like http://imgur.com/ and return the url somehow or open it automatically, which would make notes instantly available for web usage.
I should mention that this is all just based on my experiences using Xournal to take notes during class - writing equations, sketching pictures and drawing diagrams.
I've already written too much about all this, so I should just say thanks for the awesome Xournal and keep up the good work!
I've been using Xournal for note-taking for a while now and I have a few suggestions and feature requests
Firstly, I love that it automatically fills in the name field with the date and time (saves time when quickly saving and opening a new note), but it would be nice if it remembered the last successfully saved-to folder, so you don't always have to traverse the file system when saving or exporting a lot of notes.
That brings me to the export option. I really like that you can export PDF files easily as it makes notes portable and reusable in other apps.
In that note, I'd love some more export options, like:
- export to PNG and possibly other image formats (with customizable resolution/size, with extra whitespace around sketches or without (cropped to content))
- export without the horizontal lines (which are helpful while writing, but not so much when exported, especially with drawings/sketches/diagrams/not text)
Exporting is a bit of a chore if you have a lot of notes though, due to the above mentioned remember-folder issue. That said, Xournal could have command line options (which it already might have, but I'm not aware of them), which would allow instant export of Xournal save files to other file formats (provided as the argument and/or implied from file extension). Exporting a lot of them wouldn't bother me so much if the last folder exported to was remembered though
A feature that would really help with note-taking / sketching would be the ability to expand the canvas either automagically (which could create an infinite canvas to draw to) or something along the lines of the Sketch application that came with the N900 (buttons to expand the canvas to left/right/top/bottom).
I'm not sure what expanding the canvas would do to the export-to-PDF option, possibly scaling the canvas to fit the PDF page? There should be no problems if you added the export-to-PNG option though
Sharing is nice too, but it'd be even nicer if you didn't have to save an arbitrary PDF somewhere (it could probably save a temporary one somewhere, but that might bring some problems?). I guess it could be nice if it had an insta-share function that would capture the current contents of the page and automatically upload to a site like http://imgur.com/ and return the url somehow or open it automatically, which would make notes instantly available for web usage.
I should mention that this is all just based on my experiences using Xournal to take notes during class - writing equations, sketching pictures and drawing diagrams.
I've already written too much about all this, so I should just say thanks for the awesome Xournal and keep up the good work!
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2010-04-09
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Thanks for the feedback!
I am happy to say that most of your requests are "coming back" with one of the next release.
The ability to change the background to whatever you want, the ability to set the size of the page to pre-defined format (A4, A4 Letter and so on up to Custom size).
Some won't. Or at least not in a near future. I will investigate some of them (like exporting to different formats rather then PDF alone) or the "batch" export of notes.
At work now, I will try a more complete answer soon
I am happy to say that most of your requests are "coming back" with one of the next release.
The ability to change the background to whatever you want, the ability to set the size of the page to pre-defined format (A4, A4 Letter and so on up to Custom size).
Some won't. Or at least not in a near future. I will investigate some of them (like exporting to different formats rather then PDF alone) or the "batch" export of notes.
At work now, I will try a more complete answer soon
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2010-04-11
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#304
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Layers in Xournal are back.
Next: Paper styles (style, color, size - per page / all pages) and as such also using images as background to annotate onto.
Last edited by anidel; 2010-04-11 at 21:55. Reason: More details
Next: Paper styles (style, color, size - per page / all pages) and as such also using images as background to annotate onto.
Last edited by anidel; 2010-04-11 at 21:55. Reason: More details
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2010-04-11
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Originally Posted by Smily
This is in the study. Will come.
Hi!
I've been using Xournal for note-taking for a while now and I have a few suggestions and feature requests
Firstly, I love that it automatically fills in the name field with the date and time (saves time when quickly saving and opening a new note), but it would be nice if it remembered the last successfully saved-to folder, so you don't always have to traverse the file system when saving or exporting a lot of notes.
That brings me to the export option. I really like that you can export PDF files easily as it makes notes portable and reusable in other apps.
In that note, I'd love some more export options, like:
- export to PNG and possibly other image formats (with customizable resolution/size, with extra whitespace around sketches or without (cropped to content))
Originally Posted by Smily
This is coming back. You will be able to choose the background of each page.
- export without the horizontal lines (which are helpful while writing, but not so much when exported, especially with drawings/sketches/diagrams/not text)
We'll see if I can easily add the option to skip exporting the background.
Originally Posted by Smily
Looking now at remembering the saved-to folder.
These options should of course be remembered like the last saved-to folder too
Originally Posted by Smily
This would help indeed... but don't expect it anytime soon
Exporting is a bit of a chore if you have a lot of notes though, due to the above mentioned remember-folder issue. That said, Xournal could have command line options (which it already might have, but I'm not aware of them), which would allow instant export of Xournal save files to other file formats (provided as the argument and/or implied from file extension). Exporting a lot of them wouldn't bother me so much if the last folder exported to was remembered though
Originally Posted by Smily
This was already in Xournal, is there, just missing the UI elements for it. Will be back.
A feature that would really help with note-taking / sketching would be the ability to expand the canvas either automagically (which could create an infinite canvas to draw to) or something along the lines of the Sketch application that came with the N900 (buttons to expand the canvas to left/right/top/bottom).
I'm not sure what expanding the canvas would do to the export-to-PDF option, possibly scaling the canvas to fit the PDF page? There should be no problems if you added the export-to-PNG option though
Originally Posted by Smily
The problem is that auto-saving the PDF asks to save the file first.
Sharing is nice too, but it'd be even nicer if you didn't have to save an arbitrary PDF somewhere (it could probably save a temporary one somewhere, but that might bring some problems?). I guess it could be nice if it had an insta-share function that would capture the current contents of the page and automatically upload to a site like http://imgur.com/ and return the url somehow or open it automatically, which would make notes instantly available for web usage.
Should not be complex to remove this requirement and have Xournal automatically save the PDF to a temporary location.
The problem is that once you "share it", Xournal has no ways to know if the export has completed and thus the temp file could be removed.
I need to think about it.
Originally Posted by Smily
It's never too much
I should mention that this is all just based on my experiences using Xournal to take notes during class - writing equations, sketching pictures and drawing diagrams.
I've already written too much about all this, so I should just say thanks for the awesome Xournal and keep up the good work!
keep posting suggestions.Aniello
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2010-04-11
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#306
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Awesome, thanks!
About the sharing stuff, it'd be really neat if there was a button that instantly saved a temporary PDF, uploaded it to http://imgur.com (it supports PDF upload and auto-converts to PNG and it has an API, so uploading shouldn't be that hard?) and then stored the url in the clipboard or something.
I know integrating an arbitrary web service like this into the application doesn't necessarily seem that wise, but I think that it'd be a big time saver, at least for me
This would also bypass the temporary PDF saving issue (since you know when you've uploaded the file) and the PDF to PNG conversion (since it's automatically done on their servers).
That said, I can't wait to use the new versions!
About the sharing stuff, it'd be really neat if there was a button that instantly saved a temporary PDF, uploaded it to http://imgur.com (it supports PDF upload and auto-converts to PNG and it has an API, so uploading shouldn't be that hard?) and then stored the url in the clipboard or something.
I know integrating an arbitrary web service like this into the application doesn't necessarily seem that wise, but I think that it'd be a big time saver, at least for me
This would also bypass the temporary PDF saving issue (since you know when you've uploaded the file) and the PDF to PNG conversion (since it's automatically done on their servers).
That said, I can't wait to use the new versions!
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2010-04-12
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Eheh Xournal supports the Sharing Plugins system that is already in place in Maemo Fremantle. So it's just a matter of writing a sharing plugin for that site and evey applications that uses the sharing plugins will benefit of it.
But I do not have time for it sorry.
But I do not have time for it
sorry.
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2010-04-12
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I've uploaded package fremantle3 to extras-devel and you should get an update now already.
This one should be installable on PR1.1 so you can test it.
Remember it's still in -devel
This one should be installable on PR1.1 so you can test it.
Remember it's still in -devel
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2010-04-14
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Package fremantle4 is on extras-devel... added About dialog.
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2010-04-14
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About the Donate button.
I thought about it. To add or not to add.
I always want my software to be free, in the most wide sense. Free also of the SENSE of due something to someone, even a thank.
I don't do Xournal for thanks or for money. I do it for fun.
But nonetheless I am receiving Thanks AND some money (just for a pizza, but still). That made me think that people simply want to thank.
No matter if you want or need those thanks.
That donate button is for those people and for those people only (and, really, they don't have to!).
Believe it or not. It's for those people.
So do not send money, I am not looking for those when doing this fun on Xournal.
Aniello
I thought about it. To add or not to add.
I always want my software to be free, in the most wide sense. Free also of the SENSE of due something to someone, even a thank.
I don't do Xournal for thanks or for money. I do it for fun.
But nonetheless I am receiving Thanks AND some money (just for a pizza, but still). That made me think that people simply want to thank.
No matter if you want or need those thanks.
That donate button is for those people and for those people only (and, really, they don't have to!).
Believe it or not. It's for those people.
So do not send money, I am not looking for those when doing this fun on Xournal.
Aniello
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This simply adds a menu to select/add new layers (shall add the remove functionality).
Aniello
EDIT: Hack, forgot we can't install it until PR1.2 has been released
Such a shame... I shouldn't have updated the SDK to 1.2
Last edited by anidel; 2010-04-09 at 02:32.