I can sympathize with the investors.


The hype built up coming into the revealing.
Share prices increase modestly.

Then NOKIA shows them the Lumia 920, people are like wtf is this crap.
Stock begins to fall.

Can we preorder, what's the price --No answer from Nokia.
Okay, stock falls before the point of the event.

Let's compare the specs to the SGS3, Nextus and NOTE 2 (etc)...nope, Nokia's hardly catching up.
Stocks continue falling.

Sorry you can't play with it, the software's not ready.
Stocks continue falling.

Sleep. Other investors see the depression, they decide to withdraw.
Stocks continue falling.

Evidence that "PureView" has been purposely deceived comes to light.
Stocks fall. Hard.

A few days, it stabilizes.

The next iPhone launches. Pre-orders begin. Apple's stocks increase.
People make comparison of Lumia 920 to the iPhone 5.
People realize L920 is better hardware, equal software, (much)worse ecosystem (yet promising)... the Lumia 920 doesn't look half-bad anymore.
Nokia's stocks begin to rise again.

What's next?
Pre-order, Pricing, Availability --and its affects on NOKIA stocks.
Next LG and Google flagships --and its affects on NOKIA stocks.
Product shipping, released, reviews --and its affects on NOKIA stocks.
Sales numbers, profits, etc --and its affects on NOKIA stocks.
Quarterly reports --and its affects on NOKIA stocks.

I think NOKIA did enjoy a little boost from the release of the underwhelming fbiPhone 5.

Apple are starting to appear like the Status Quo of the mobile world

Whenever SQ release a new record all their fans get very excited but to the rest of the world it sounds exactly the chuffin' same as every other record they ever made.

You need software to drive the hardware you dorky dork dork dork ...


Whatever is ready (or not), the phones are not here - yet. The Lumia 920 looks better and better actually. It's big, HUGE. How do you carry such a monster? That's my main problem with the 920.


iPhone 5 vs 920 vs SGS3:

Size: iPhone
Groove: 920
Best overall (apps, web, mail, wide range of functionality): probably SGS3

I would go for the 920. The 920 got that extra kick, even the 820 is more groovy than the others IMO. Still have hopes for a 4 inch 41 MP WP8 pureview popping up before Christmas though.

In a side note, found out that my N9 supports 5G WIFI, the Lumia 800 does not

No use discussing Nokia stock, it's all over the place atm.

meego was not fully ready when n9 was released same for qt BUT now it is more ready and that is even when nokia pulled the plug. So in summary if that ashole Elop and tbe rest of the ****ing board had continued with Qt + meego the 920 had been running harmattan and a lot more intresting. Now the only who will buy it is hardcore micronokia fanboys or brainwashed people or those who are sick of google or IOS.

So in summary I hope Elop and the rest of the board fails because nokia deserves to fail when they killeed harmattan.e Every time I see 920 I think, damn if it run harmattan instead of wp, and that make me sad...rr

You, sir, obviously have no idea what Qt is.

From wiki: "Haavard Nord and Eirik Chambe-Eng (the original developers of Qt and the CEO and President, respectively, of Trolltech) began development of "Qt" in 1991. "

In 1998, there was controversy around the fact that KDE was becoming a leading desktop environment because it was based on Qt.

Qt does not belong on a list of unfinished operating systems released by Nokia.
Qt does not belong on a list of operating systems.
Qt is an age old framework for developing applications across hardware platforms, somewhat like, I don't know, Java.

Stating that Qt wasn't ready makes about as much sense as to state that Java wasn't ready when Samsung released their Galaxy S III.

The only thing that wasn't "ready" with Qt was that people hadn't started announcing their existing applications on the new hardware platform that now supported Qt, nor had they started making dedicated Nokia applications on the platform. And they never started, because Elop announced it to be dead pretty much before the products were in sale. Nobody makes applications any much for a platform that doesn't exist.

Volt, where the heck did I say Qt was an OS???

Obviosly QML or more exacly the UI layer(qt-components) for harmattan was not ready when PR1.0 was released.

you already should know harmattan is using qtdeclararative and not qtwidgets. And qtdeclarative was definitivly not ready 2008 when nokia bought trolltech.

Nokia actually did alot with qt and qtcreator to improve it on embedded platforms. Until elop the idiotboard panicked...

I just tried Samsung Galaxy III. What a piece of crap. This is definitely much worse than any Lumia phone I used so far. I don't understand it's popularity.

Qualify your statements or risk it being thrown aside as troll fodder like damn near everything else you say.

Seriously dude, it's not that hard to qualify your statements. You didn't like X, Y or Z and it compares poorly to A, B and C.

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gerbrick, what are you attempting to do? You can't train a consciously disrupting troll to be anything but a troll.