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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by momcilo
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by Rugoz
as i understood, nokia planned to show the dev device at the conference but meego.com didnt wanted to show something at the conference that is not a real meego product (correct me if i am wrong).
Nokia's marketing dep. probably does not like the meego branding at all. I can emphasize. It won't sell a consumer product.
And thats what i dont understand because it would be a great benefit for meego if they could show something (anything) for meego..
source: http://maemo.org/community/council/c...date-may_2011/
"It was apparent that Nokia had wanted the device to be certified as MeeGo compliant in time for the conference but that discussions on this topic had not been resolved."
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2011-05-31
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It is also pretty irrelevant though, and definitely not causing any delays.
Don't forget that MeeGo is basically Intel's Moblin for Netbooks merged with Nokia's Maemo for Smartphones.
Maemo is the real thing, no matter what Intel's attitude is or what it will ultimately be called.
Personally, I still can't quite imagine how the branding will work out in the end. Maemo is not MeeGo, but it is based on shared MeeGo technologies. Any attempts to unify the UXs is bound to fail in my opinion, at least without watering down what Nokia has been working on.
As a common technology base, I find the MeeGo style and branding a bit inappropriate. But I really don't know what is going on with that, just my personal views.
Don't forget that MeeGo is basically Intel's Moblin for Netbooks merged with Nokia's Maemo for Smartphones.
Maemo is the real thing, no matter what Intel's attitude is or what it will ultimately be called.
Personally, I still can't quite imagine how the branding will work out in the end. Maemo is not MeeGo, but it is based on shared MeeGo technologies. Any attempts to unify the UXs is bound to fail in my opinion, at least without watering down what Nokia has been working on.
As a common technology base, I find the MeeGo style and branding a bit inappropriate. But I really don't know what is going on with that, just my personal views.
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by nwerneck
all in all pretty much agree w/ your post except for above statement;
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I think the whole idea for WP7 is that Nokia will release great phones, with a new OS version that will be very attractive and cool. So it's not like any other company deciding to release some crappy phone with WP7, it's a real "synergy"... That's the idea at least.
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i think you are not quite fair w/ the electronic industry @ large.
keep in mind that NOKIA is in the position they are / were (dominating the mobile phone market) a little bit like IBM was 30 yrs ago in the PC market. of course, they had outstanding products (both HW & SW wise).otherwise they wouldn't have gotten and stayed in the dominant position.
specifically, a few yrs ago i got a SAMSUNG 780i from the company i was working @. the HW was outstanding but the sw... well, it was m$, right?
other companies can and will continue to provide HW that runs the m$ software;
especially if the Intel CPUs (under what form ever) become available & it becomes WIntel all over again.
in which case it might be possible to install MeeGo (or any port thereof) just like it is possible to install Linux / GNU on practically any PC which comes w/ LostDOS preinstalled...
which brings us back to the next Maemo / MeeGo device ¦-)
that this is all NOKIA was hopping for when they decided to bind Maemo's fate to Moblin would make sense, provided that wp7 got off the ground (which, a year & 1/2 ago seemed possible).
as this last thing did not come true (yet), it was either waiting for a miracle to happen or step in.
it may still require a small miracle for wp to become the dominant OS in the mobile phone market, but the odds have improved, haven't they?
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by retsaw
mind telling us what the point of your post is?
So you post a link to an article with no useful content, ask a question that you should know what answers you'll get from people here (maybe it was rhetorical), and there was an actual point? Yeah, I guess I missed it.
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by misterc
We can install LINUX or Windows OS as a in Windows as Virtual PC, similarly there should be the option of installing Meego in WP 7 using Virtual PC
all in all pretty much agree w/ your post except for above statement;
i think you are not quite fair w/ the electronic industry @ large.
keep in mind that NOKIA is in the position they are / were (dominating the mobile phone market) a little bit like IBM was 30 yrs ago in the PC market. of course, they had outstanding products (both HW & SW wise).otherwise they wouldn't have gotten and stayed in the dominant position.
specifically, a few yrs ago i got a SAMSUNG 780i from the company i was working @. the HW was outstanding but the sw... well, it was m$, right?
other companies can and will continue to provide HW that runs the m$ software;
especially if the Intel CPUs (under what form ever) become available & it becomes WIntel all over again.
in which case it might be possible to install MeeGo (or any port thereof) just like it is possible to install Linux / GNU on practically any PC which comes w/ LostDOS preinstalled...
which brings us back to the next Maemo / MeeGo device ¦-)
that this is all NOKIA was hopping for when they decided to bind Maemo's fate to Moblin would make sense, provided that wp7 got off the ground (which, a year & 1/2 ago seemed possible).
as this last thing did not come true (yet), it was either waiting for a miracle to happen or step in.
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2011-05-31
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@misterc i hope it comes true any i hope any way and i hope meego is a big hit because that could really help linux become a mainstream os choice instead for an os for a few people who like to live on the edge
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Nokia just announced an earnings warning and the stock tanked a lot. So they better get this device out the door asap before going down. And as harmattan is clearly not Meego compliant it can never be said to be either, end of story. Harmattan is based on Maemo and should not be called MeeGo whatsoever.
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But the WM7 "horse" has a blood lineage tracing back to donkeys such as WM6.5, 6.1, 6.0, 5.1 that was fully neglected for too many years and Microsoft did sweet F all to maintain it (still running on Pocket IE4/6!!).
But the WM7 "horse" has a blood lineage tracing back to donkeys such as WM6.5, 6.1, 6.0, 5.1 that was fully neglected for too many years and Microsoft did sweet F all to maintain it (still running on Pocket IE4/6!!).
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Originally Posted by selfish_russian
Your device MUST be MeeGo compliant to be allowed to be branded as such and as Harmattan CLEARLY is not they have recieved a negative answer on their request.
In my opinion, branding Nokia maemo phone as Meego-phone would very benefit whole MeeGo. Otherwise, there will be no MeeGo phone at all till probably summer of next year.
And if kbd-less N9 is so good as people say, it would be very good for MeeGo itself to have such a product under meego name.
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But the WM7 "horse" has a blood lineage tracing back to donkeys such as WM6.5, 6.1, 6.0, 5.1 that was fully neglected for too many years and Microsoft did sweet F all to maintain it (still running on Pocket IE4/6!!).
But the WM7 "horse" has a blood lineage tracing back to donkeys such as WM6.5, 6.1, 6.0, 5.1 that was fully neglected for too many years and Microsoft did sweet F all to maintain it (still running on Pocket IE4/6!!).
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2011-05-31
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As said Nokia just revised there forcast numbers for 2011 but also stated that the first windows phone should be Q4, thus this event in June can't be for a windows phone can it??? surely step 6 of 6 will be shown!!! 
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/31/n...-increasingly/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/31/n...-increasingly/
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