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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by xerxes2
you're the one coming up with assumptions without any base. So I'm not in charge of doing your work.
It's all over the place. Why don't you ask the TSG instead of what's going on?
I met Quim at the MeeGo Conference and there was not a single little bit of whining.
In fact he goes conform with the decision to not present Harmattan at the Conference.
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by momcilo
You mean if the earnings warning was the reason for Nokia's stock going down? Of course it was.
It seems huge number of stocks were sold today between 9 and 10 o'clock, and the value has dropped from ~8.20 to ~ 7.14
Do you think this was result of the announcement?
And it wont get any better at least till Q3, but that's a story for another topic.
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by misterc
DOUBT IT :-)
all in all pretty much agree w/ your post except for above statement;
i think you are not quite fair w/ the electronic industry @ large.
keep in mind that NOKIA is in the position they are / were (dominating the mobile phone market) a little bit like IBM was 30 yrs ago in the PC market. of course, they had outstanding products (both HW & SW wise).otherwise they wouldn't have gotten and stayed in the dominant position.
specifically, a few yrs ago i got a SAMSUNG 780i from the company i was working @. the HW was outstanding but the sw... well, it was m$, right?
other companies can and will continue to provide HW that runs the m$ software;
especially if the Intel CPUs (under what form ever) become available & it becomes WIntel all over again.
in which case it might be possible to install MeeGo (or any port thereof) just like it is possible to install Linux / GNU on practically any PC which comes w/ LostDOS preinstalled...
which brings us back to the next Maemo / MeeGo device ¦-)
that this is all NOKIA was hopping for when they decided to bind Maemo's fate to Moblin would make sense, provided that wp7 got off the ground (which, a year & 1/2 ago seemed possible).
as this last thing did not come true (yet), it was either waiting for a miracle to happen or step in.
it may still require a small miracle for wp to become the dominant OS in the mobile phone market, but the odds have improved, haven't they?
if Windows Phone 7 phones sell under nokia brand name even then it won't get the attention it should have !!!
No the problem is with the Windows brand itself (A blessing as well as a curse)
MS may have released a good os but naming it windows still always reminds the end consumer where its coming from nomatter how many shells the product goes through !!!
(Hint :-If a person is eating their favorite food and something nasty takes place will the person ever eat that dish the next time it is made ???!
)People have come though ages of viruses,lost dll's,incompatible version of s/w and h/w,Recently even Security prompts programing issues of User account control of vista and 7 as well as bad programming practises by ms end which resulted in dll hell in vb6 era.
to the end consumer the product will always be then at
"Windows phone is good but i'll spend a little more or less!! and get an apple or android(Assuming fragmentation will be solved) which won't give me those issues"
it'll take years of ms(maybe months) of giving hard work and overachieving targets to get the public to forget this image and establish one as clean as Google has .
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by xerxes2
Yes, Quim spoke with the maemo.org Community Council for a few minutes during lunch one day during the conference. Most of the conversation was devoted to thoughts on where Harmattan device users will go to find community.
...Quim persuasively argued that certifying the Harmattan device as MeeGo compliant would be largely beneficial to the MeeGo project.
Quim's few sentences on the Harmattan device and the open question of whether it becomes accepted as MeeGo were said with almost a shrug. He certainly didn't come across as whining or complaining.
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2011-05-31
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Looks like nokia might be redeveloping hatterman for all those n9 out there to official meego 1.2 !!!
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by bhairav
What makes it appear that way?
Looks like nokia might be redeveloping hatterman for all those n9 out there to official meego 1.2 !!!
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2011-05-31
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from FoumNokia on twitter
"The lucky No. 18 plan will be revealed tomorrow (1 June). Are you ready for this? Any guesses? Tell a friend. #18K"
does not smell like anything that interesting to me but thought it should be added to this drivel here nonetheless
Last edited by NvyUs; 2011-05-31 at 15:23.
"The lucky No. 18 plan will be revealed tomorrow (1 June). Are you ready for this? Any guesses? Tell a friend. #18K"
does not smell like anything that interesting to me but thought it should be added to this drivel here nonetheless
Last edited by NvyUs; 2011-05-31 at 15:23.
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by xerxes2
It's odd though - it's been known SINCE THE MERGING MAEMO AND MOBLIN ANNOUNCEMENT that they were too far into the development of Harmattan to completely comply with the MeeGo goals, and that Maemo 6 would be an hybrid instance of MeeGo with several non-compliant core features, like the package system.
Your device MUST be MeeGo compliant to be allowed to be branded as such and as Harmattan CLEARLY is not they have recieved a negative answer on their request.
As far as I can tell, they must've negotiated around that problem already before the agreement was signed. How come it's been unclear if they could use the MeeGo label this late in the process? Didn't Nokia ask? Or did the powers of Mee get non-friendly over the elopocalypse?
Originally Posted by zymo
Anyway, the name licence problem is not a new development, i.e. did I commented on it back in March: [same discussion, different time]. If this had been a priority with Nokia, they'd get an answer to this question early. I am thinking they had their answer already back when they started talking about Maemo 6 again, at least February.
http://maemo.org/community/council/c...date-may_2011/
it seems the reason for the delay of the N9/n950 is that it isn’t decided/clarified yet whether or not the device(s) will be „branded“ MeeGo.
It became increasingly obvious during the conference that no other MeeGo cellphone was ready to be launched and Quim persuasively argued that certifying the Harmattan device as MeeGo compliant would be largely beneficial to the MeeGo project.
Originally Posted by maverick788us
Now, who can name one reason I'd like an intel x86 compatible device?
We can install LINUX or Windows OS as a in Windows as Virtual PC, similarly there should be the option of installing Meego in WP 7 using Virtual PC
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by NvyUs
Plan B was Symbian, MeeGO probably plan C... what could me plan 18?
from FoumNokia on twitter
"The lucky No. 18 plan will be revealed tomorrow (1 June). Are you ready for this? Any guesses? Tell a friend. #18K"
does not smell like anything that interesting to me but thought it should be added to this drivel here nonetheless
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