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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by kanishou
Yes Meego will FAIL without Maemo IMHO. Problem is that what shall Nokia say too the consumers if theyr not even allowed to call it Meego compatible?
It is also pretty irrelevant though, and definitely not causing any delays.
Don't forget that MeeGo is basically Intel's Moblin for Netbooks merged with Nokia's Maemo for Smartphones.
Maemo is the real thing, no matter what Intel's attitude is or what it will ultimately be called.
Personally, I still can't quite imagine how the branding will work out in the end. Maemo is not MeeGo, but it is based on shared MeeGo technologies. Any attempts to unify the UXs is bound to fail in my opinion, at least without watering down what Nokia has been working on.
As a common technology base, I find the MeeGo style and branding a bit inappropriate. But I really don't know what is going on with that, just my personal views.
I mean who will buy it? Except us who loves N900. That is very risky in a already shacking Nokia boat :-(
Too mee its obvious Meego needs Maemo Harmattan! But it looks to me Intel doesnt give a **** atm. Maybe they dont care about Meego future anyway?
They have a planB Android anyway.
In a way I can uunderstand Intel but at the same time its plain stupid war going on.
Both companys are LOOSERS!
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by Verythrax
Not just 18, but 18K. All new Symbian phones will be gold plated. That way, should the looming switch to Windows Phone 7 crush the flagging Symbian ecosystem even earlier than expected, well, at least you can get a buck or two from one of those "we buy gold" outfits.
what could me plan 18?
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
How exactly does Intel have a say in that? (I'd just like to know) Cuz I thought MeeGo didn't technically "belong" to anybody
...To me its obvious Meego needs Maemo Harmattan! But it looks to me Intel doesnt give a **** atm.
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by xerxes2
We has discussed this before and now I know it is not "compliant"
Your device MUST be MeeGo compliant to be allowed to be branded as such and as Harmattan CLEARLY is not they have recieved a negative answer on their request.
But question is are the allowed to call it Meego compatible? The plan was they were until february? But now its seems theyre not even allowed to call it that hows stupid is that!?
Just looks like a childish war between Nokia and Intel IMHO. And that will hurt the community thats for sure
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by xerxes2
Wrong Meego need Harmattan on handset! Meego is only halfway to succes.
As the rumour says that the matter is not resolved make your own conclusions.
IMHO this means a negative answer, as it should be.
Edit: And the TSG should make this clear for everybody. IE Asus just announced a MeeGo branded netbook and I hope that it is MeeGo compliant and so forth.
Edit2: And it's REALLY irritating that Nokia are asking the TSG to make an exception for Harmattan. They should dump Maemo and move over to MeeGo asap instead of spending time whining.
Soo far I havents seen ANY working handset for Meego. So stop this bullish about dishing Maemo!
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
this link
What makes it appear that way?
http://noknok.tv/2011/05/31/meego-1-...ured-nokia-n9/
btw the thread has again drifted off topic so i will give away one tidbit of info i got from eldar to set things straight and this thread abuzz again .
if nokia n9 is only one meego phone that nokia is gonna release then Eldar murtazin who had seen the h/w has already replied that it is quiet old as compared to newer windows phone or android devices !!!
IF HOWEVER there is another meego phone having better h/w then nokia might have its recognition saved.
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
But why the heck is he still talking about it? Harmattan is clearly not MeeGo compliant (or compatible for that matter) so why go on whining about it? Enough already! The TSG should just tell Nokia to STFU and that no means no.
Yes, Quim spoke with the maemo.org Community Council for a few minutes during lunch one day during the conference. Most of the conversation was devoted to thoughts on where Harmattan device users will go to find community.
Quim's few sentences on the Harmattan device and the open question of whether it becomes accepted as MeeGo were said with almost a shrug. He certainly didn't come across as whining or complaining.
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But the WM7 "horse" has a blood lineage tracing back to donkeys such as WM6.5, 6.1, 6.0, 5.1 that was fully neglected for too many years and Microsoft did sweet F all to maintain it (still running on Pocket IE4/6!!).
But the WM7 "horse" has a blood lineage tracing back to donkeys such as WM6.5, 6.1, 6.0, 5.1 that was fully neglected for too many years and Microsoft did sweet F all to maintain it (still running on Pocket IE4/6!!).
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Originally Posted by xerxes2
Problem is Intel who has decided most of whats shall be included in Meego seems to not be intrested in ANYTHIONG comming from Maemo. So the compliance spec is just bigfail anyway.
Yes I do. And who says that the TSG haven't given Nokia an answer? Maybe someone should ask the TSG what is going on? What is there to discuss? It's been clear for years that Harmattan is based on Maemo so why would this simple matter not have been resolved a long time ago? Why are qgil still whining about it? It seems to be Nokia that think that the matter is not resolved yet but the TSG might have already given them a straight NO a long time ago? And Nokia just keep on whining about it.
Again what is there to discuss? I don't get it. Harmattan is not MeeGo compliant so it must be a very easy call to make.
Why the freak isnt QtMobility included as compliance spec as an example. And the evoution vs Track war that started after MrFlop decision?
To mee its abvious Intel dictates the compliancespec.
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2011-05-31
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Originally Posted by IsaacDFP
IIRC the MeeGo TSG consists of three persons, one from LF, one from Intel and one from Nokia. The Nokia dude did however move to Intel after Elopocalypse so suddenly Nokia didn't have any vote at all.
How exactly does Intel have a say in that? (I'd just like to know) Cuz I thought MeeGo didn't technically "belong" to anybody
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But the WM7 "horse" has a blood lineage tracing back to donkeys such as WM6.5, 6.1, 6.0, 5.1 that was fully neglected for too many years and Microsoft did sweet F all to maintain it (still running on Pocket IE4/6!!).
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I just say this:
This just proves that Elop has succed to trash the Meego community totally
Now there is open war between Maemo/Meego and opensource Intel vs Nokia and the only winner is Microsoft again
I said this on february and say it again: This is exactly what Elop and Microsoft want to happen
Instead of fight Microsoft, the Linux community fights about Maemo and Meego and what should be merged wtf
Last edited by mikecomputing; 2011-05-31 at 15:31.