Do we even know at this point what the reasons were for the insane delay on this. I mean I know it's been published that it was to "fix it" and "make it better", but damn...with this kind of launch delay and dancing around release dates...it better be an insane overhaul on SOMETHING to make Maemo uber.

we know naathing

Well considering the fact that Nokia officially said they started shipping the unit last week, they can't be holding back to "fix it". This is going to be my first Nokia phone/device, and so far I am not getting the best initial impressions from them.

Sad thing is, end users have no clue, retailers have no clue, preferred vendors have no clue, and even nokia themselves seem to have no clue.

But at this point, I think it may be safe to assume that perhaps they were not being honest when they said they started shipping last week.

Not long now .

Exactly. That date was pure BS to calm the masses and to buy themselves more time it seems. Prove me wrong, Nokia.

Reflect for a moment. Imagine you are going to drive a long way - say 600 miles - and the people at the other end want to know when you'll arrive so they can have a meal ready. How can you predict?

You can give them a vague ballpark, and hope you hit it, but with the uncertainty of traffic, weather, that accident on the m5 and a couple of tractors, the chances are you'll be wide of the mark.

You can make a worst case estimate, give them that and then hang around in the playing park opposite their house till the time you said you'd arrive. (Which is roughly what most manufacturers do - someone has already said that the big release video game recently was preceded by days of it piled up in stores Not For Sale).

Or you can call them up and say "I'm now leaving" and hope they can be mature enough to make a guess about when you'll arrive and be flexible about the possible transport complications.

Which is more or less what Nokia did. Peter's comment was your n900 calling you from Korea and saying "I'm now leaving". I guess it just got stuck behind a tractor somewhere on the High Seas.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssss delivery van at the door.
ive got mine. yeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssss. the pizza i ordered 5 mins ago here already cant believe it.

^ LOL what kind of pizza?

It's not a Nokia pizza.

Meat Feast soooo good