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Laughing Man is offline Laughing Man
2009-11-16 , 19:01
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Originally Posted by RevdKathy View Post
Reflect for a moment. Imagine you are going to drive a long way - say 600 miles - and the people at the other end want to know when you'll arrive so they can have a meal ready. How can you predict?

You can give them a vague ballpark, and hope you hit it, but with the uncertainty of traffic, weather, that accident on the m5 and a couple of tractors, the chances are you'll be wide of the mark.

You can make a worst case estimate, give them that and then hang around in the playing park opposite their house till the time you said you'd arrive. (Which is roughly what most manufacturers do - someone has already said that the big release video game recently was preceded by days of it piled up in stores Not For Sale).

Or you can call them up and say "I'm now leaving" and hope they can be mature enough to make a guess about when you'll arrive and be flexible about the possible transport complications.

Which is more or less what Nokia did. Peter's comment was your n900 calling you from Korea and saying "I'm now leaving". I guess it just got stuck behind a tractor somewhere on the High Seas.
It's a good thing the military and companies doing large scale operations don't think like that or they'd be dead in the water. You can give an average prediction based off of accurate estimation and do your best to follow it. If you break down somewhere or get stuck you let someone know to update the prediction.
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They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
att is offline att
2009-11-16 , 19:08
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Originally Posted by sharper View Post
They don't bother to release information as useless as when they ship from their factories (because unsurprisingly nobody cares) but they do tell you when it's showing up in shops.
Investors care.
 
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2009-11-16 , 19:13
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#3303
Originally Posted by att View Post
Investors care.
Investors care about return on money invested, that's it.
 
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2009-11-16 , 19:17
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Originally Posted by att View Post
Investors care.
Investors care about revenue. They want to know when the stock will be sold and how much revenue Nokia will book for this quarter.

From reading this and the other thread it seems like a lot customers might not be able to buy until 2010, in the meantime they might just go with a competitor and wait and see if Nokia's next device in 2011 is any good.
 
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2009-11-16 , 19:23
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Nokia(USA) called and canceled my order for me. They said that they changed distributors and all orders need to be canceled. They said that when i get my money back (in 3-5 business days), I should call them and place a new order. I was urged not to worry because I will still be a "priority pre-order customer."

Honestly, im tired of getting dicked around.

Is anyone else experiencing this?
 
les_garten is offline les_garten
2009-11-16 , 19:27
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Originally Posted by theinternet View Post
Nokia(USA) called and canceled my order for me. They said that they changed distributors and all orders need to be canceled. They said that when i get my money back (in 3-5 business days), I should call them and place a new order. I was urged not to worry because I will still be a "priority pre-order customer."

Honestly, im tired of getting dicked around.

Is anyone else experiencing this?
Pretty SMOOTH operation over there...
 
theinternet is offline theinternet
2009-11-16 , 19:32
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#3307
Do they really expect me to call back on Friday and order AGAIN?

Regardless...I was wondering if anyone else is having this same issue.
 
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2009-11-16 , 19:32
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I sure am glad I did not pay an extra $100 to order through nokiaUSA now....
 
theinternet is offline theinternet
2009-11-16 , 19:34
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Oh, they said they were taking 15% off of my order and would *not* include my Bluetooth Headset that came with the bundle.
 
att is offline att
2009-11-16 , 19:37
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Originally Posted by sharper View Post
Investors care about revenue. They want to know when the stock will be sold and how much revenue Nokia will book for this quarter.
The stock has already been sold from the Nokia's view when they leave the factory.
 
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