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2010-05-12
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Originally Posted by rpgAmazon
Your English is relatively fine, by the way, and understandable.
Yes. But few, very few weeks ago, a lot of people were "astonished" reading Steve letter...
Nokia "planning" and "steps" over years ending in nothing.
Jobs, "writing a letter", turn the net to his way.
(sorry again, this time I can't write in english what I want to "say")
Don't keep apologizing. I've seen far worse.You make a good point. Jobs needs only say the word and the web is healed, by most published accounts. In this particular topic, I agree with his sentiment so I'm glad that he can manage to move this forward where a lame has-been like Nokia spouts a lot of nice things that we want to hear but follows through on nearly none of it.
Originally Posted by mikecomputing
Near as I can tell, Flash sucks on EVERY platform and it's been a particularly excellent vector for exploits too. Given their track records for responsibility, I'd trust the browser coders to do a better job of plugging their holes than Adobe. I'm behind HTML5 all the way for all the right reasons.
In a way I agree with u but still the fact is Flash sucks hell atleast in Linux. Also it eats CPU on both desktop and mobile platform.
However maybe we will see Flash 10.1 in PR 1.2 maybe its why we have waited soo long for PR1.2 cause it could be strategy right direction for nokia do so?
We can always wait and see...
I already cynicized (I made it a VERB now!) enough about Flash on 1.2. In a bet, I'd wager against the likelihood that it'll show up.
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2010-05-12
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Well Meego/Maemo6/Harmatten having Flash 10.1 is pretty much a certainty. If Nokia doesn't provide an official update for the n900, I suspect the libflashplayer.so could be copied onto the n900 from the Meego image, given that it's the same build and hardware target. It's also quite possible that Adobe could distribute the library via the OVI store, since it's really in their interest to have compatibility among as many devices as possible. So even if Nokia were to issue an announcement that Flash 10.1 isn't being offered for the n900, it wouldn't be the proverbial nail-in-the-coffin.
I'll also say that we're not just dealing with HTML5 vs. Flash; Microsoft is still really pushing Silverlight, and I'd hate to see that gain any more traction than it has.
I'll also say that we're not just dealing with HTML5 vs. Flash; Microsoft is still really pushing Silverlight, and I'd hate to see that gain any more traction than it has.
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2010-05-12
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Originally Posted by chowdahhead
Care to explain why?
... Microsoft is still really pushing Silverlight, and I'd hate to see that gain any more traction than it has.
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2010-05-12
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Probably for all the same reasons we don't want to see Flash adoption that we've pointed out (slow, resource hogging, vector point for exploits, closed-source, slow attention to plugging exploits/bugs, legal issues, etc.). With Silverlight, probably more so, given Microsoft's record.
Care to explain why?
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2010-05-12
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If it is good technology, friendly for developers/users and cheap/free, I don't care who the "owner" or the "controller" is.
Most things in life, something that has a "ruler" or a "dictator" usually succeed more than having no one and everyone being equal.
Most things in life, something that has a "ruler" or a "dictator" usually succeed more than having no one and everyone being equal.
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2010-05-12
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Originally Posted by danramos
Dammit. Now you've gon' and given some excuses.
Probably for all the same reasons we don't want to see Flash adoption that we've pointed out (slow, resource hogging, vector point for exploits, closed-source, slow attention to plugging exploits/bugs, legal issues, etc.). With Silverlight, probably more so, given Microsoft's record.
I'm genuinely interested in the disgust over plugin based content. It's not a mandatory install. And on Maemo, you better believe somebody will find a way to turn it off.
And scarily enough... I actually like Silverlight's mobile implementation for video and animations.
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Are they excuses... or reasons?
Dammit. Now you've gon' and given some excuses.
I'm genuinely interested in the disgust over plugin based content. It's not a mandatory install. And on Maemo, you better believe somebody will find a way to turn it off.
And scarily enough... I actually like Silverlight's mobile implementation for video and animations.
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2010-05-12
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Originally Posted by danramos
At this stage of the game, I'd venture that's the same thing.
Are they excuses... or reasons?
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2010-05-12
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There may be some merits to the technology but the problem with Silverlight is support--the same reason people are upset in this thread. Microsoft has a history of leveraging their strength in one division to propagate their position in another. The internet is a great example; it's the reason for the anti-trust cases brought against them by the US DOJ and the EU. If Silverlight had the marketshare that Flash currently has, do you really think Microsoft would offer support without any deference to platform? Maybe I'm a bit cynical, but I don't think competitors to WinMobile would be equivalently supported. At least Adobe has an interest in supporting as many devices as they can equally.
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However maybe we will see Flash 10.1 in PR 1.2 maybe its why we have waited soo long for PR1.2 cause it could be strategy right direction for nokia do so?
We can always wait and see...