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Koajwujwer123	2011-06-03 , 05:06
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Originally Posted by IsaacDFP

I'm not too sure I like the sound of that... Personally, I honestly LOVED the N900 BECAUSE it was not specific to mainstream. If I ever did want Facebook or Twitter, then I could just install of the apps made by member of this great community. But having it all already pre-installed and integrated part of the OS...sounds too much like WP7/Android/iOS... I really don't like the idea that Nokia wants to promote MeeGo to the general masses as I don't think normal people are just not ready yet for open source

The point is , this OS is big change from Maemo5. Quite different. I don't know if geeks like you will even like it. I think you will understand better on seeing it yourself. But yess, public interest and appeal came before linux people interests while development.
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morbid	2011-06-03 , 05:09
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Originally Posted by nilchak

I thing both yourself and the parent poster completly missed the point.

The fact that Skype was integrated into the N900 didnt mean that I had to enable the skype account at all if I choose not to. Its all plugins based. So if you didnt use Skye it wouldnt show as an ption on the man communication panel.

Same goes with FB and Twitter integration I bet. If I dont use FB, i would not enable that option and hence nothing to bug you all the time. Make your choise. And THEN there may be other 3rd part apps (standalone) which you may choose to install. THAT is choise.
Nokia (Meego) isnt saying you HVE to use the integrated options.

The integration should be able to be supplemented via api's and plugins. The voip integration is neat, but the ovi maps "integration" is not. I would much prefer to be able to specify which of the many nav apps I have installed to get the address I click on in my contacts list. But I can't, since I'm stuck with that integration.

I think everything that is related should *communicate*, but not be hard integrated.

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Koajwujwer123	2011-06-03 , 05:11
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Originally Posted by The Wizard of Huz

I agree. But none has all. Not good for the bottom line I guess. Why no E7 type of device with N8 camera? The N900 was as close as something can come to a super phone. Hopefully the Harmattan device will be a super phone.

Depending on how you look at it it will be a super phone well beyond the specs at least. Nice 8MP CZ camera , nice pic. Big screen , massive memory. UI , gestures , slim and of coures the great OS on it.

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Koajwujwer123	2011-06-03 , 05:13
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Originally Posted by jakiman

Correct. Integrated doesn't mean forced. It should just mean that it's there if you want to use it. Isn't this what K123 basically is implying anyways? I doubt Nokia Harmattan device will be any different. I don't get how someone could complain about it being integrated here when N900 already is like that. =P

Yes yes. Not like Andro / WP . You do not have necessary to use those services~ ! Optional so don't worry too much.

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jakiman	2011-06-03 , 05:49
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Originally Posted by Koajwujwer123

Depending on how you look at it it will be a super phone well beyond the specs at least. Nice 8MP CZ camera , nice pic. Big screen , massive memory. UI , gestures , slim and of coures the great OS on it.

Interesting information. You mention "massive memory". So you obviously know how much RAM it has. I personally wouldn't call 512MB RAM "massive". So I can only guess it's at least 768MB RAM. (I really hope you are not referring it to internal storage of 64GB as "memory"......or are you....?)

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Koajwujwer123	2011-06-03 , 05:52
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Originally Posted by jakiman

Interesting information. You mention "massive memory". So you obviously know how much RAM it has. I personally wouldn't call 512MB RAM "massive". So I can only guess it's at least 768MB RAM. (I really hope you are not referring it to internal storage of 64GB as "memory"......or are you....?)

yes for that. well i no know exact but no problem at all multitasking full webpages , apps , music etc etc. internal memory is also lot.

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buchanmilne	2011-06-03 , 06:54
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Originally Posted by morbid

I think you completely missed what he was saying... one of the benefits of open source is choices. To me, the N900 was a minimalistic linux install and I could take it from there (very ideal).

So, it doesn't have integrated facebook, GTalk and skype support? It doesn't have a twitter widget?

No integrated twitter client to annoy me...

He didn't say an integrated twitter "client", but integrated support, which is a bit of a difference.

though I could choose to install one if I wanted. If I wanted a facebook client, I could choose from several, etc....

Well, you could probably uninstall it. But, if you want a successful line of devices, so that you benefit from them, Nokia needs to be able to advertise "twitter works out-the-box" as they do for existing Symbian phones, or clueless users wouldn't buy them, claiming the phone is too difficult to use.

I am sure you could apt-get remove the packages that offend you.

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	Brock	2011-06-03 , 08:54
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Originally Posted by buchanmilne

So, it doesn't have integrated facebook, GTalk and skype support? It doesn't have a twitter widget?

what he means is that all social networks are implemented in the ui, so you dont need a special widget or app to use it (like the messages function in the n900, you dont need e.g. skype client because you can use the out -of-the-box skype ability)

all social networks? no, not all... icq support is missing... but wait... it has aim implemented which is compatible...

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buchanmilne	2011-06-03 , 09:51
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Originally Posted by Brock

what he means is that all social networks are implemented in the ui, so you dont need a special widget or app to use it (like the messages function in the n900, you dont need e.g. skype client because you can use the out -of-the-box skype ability)

So, would he prefer not to have the Messages UI on N900, because it allows / forces him to use Facebook chat (or twitter via a telepathy plugin), and instead have a primitive SMS-only replacement?

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	volt	2011-06-03 , 10:03
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Originally Posted by The Wizard of Huz

That is not the ONLY reason but if you want to believe that keep believing it. Sure. That is obviously also the reason that there are no linux virussus. Most servers run linux on the internet.

Dude, where did I say that was the only reason? It is one argument that you were overlooking/denying. You need a way to distribute a virus, and that's harder with a 1% market share than with a 70% market share.

Anyway, if linux servers are so secure, why is it called root kits and not administrator kits? There are different threats for different systems. Since Linux boxes have a high percentage on web servers and a low percentage on desktops, the threats towards Linux boxes have a different focus than Outlook viruses. On Linux, there are worms too, bots and egg drops and what not. Any system that is online, needs to be updated regularly, and it's always a struggle against the time.

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