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Price has already been talked, but as a high end phone that price isn't bad. N95 was close to 800 euros at start, but Nokia moved over 15 million of them.
Thought as many of here are buying tablet rather than phone i do understand the price problem. Looking at the phone forums that price has been ok or better than some thought.
 
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It seems to me that is the first time a Linux phone is gonna be what we wanted it to be all these years!
 

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Originally Posted by tissot View Post
Price has already been talked, but as a high end phone that price isn't bad. N95 was close to 800 euros at start, but Nokia moved over 15 million of them.
Be careful with that logic, though. That was before the global recession.
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Sure, for the first 6 months or so, but did you see how quickly the N800 and N810 prices dropped even a short time after launch? Let the early adopters pay those prices, then jump in a snag it for half that Summer next year.
I think by christmas its price will be much more friendly. By the time the next Maemo-based phone will be released, the N900 won't be expensive any longer.
 

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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
Be careful with that logic, though. That was before the global recession.
Exactly. Everyone seems to think that these slight financial adjustments can just be ignored, and that things will basically remain the same. Maybe, but what I'm reading is that consumers are changing their ways and saving more money, avoiding luxury spending. It seems to me that most of the N900-heads are completely ignoring this factor.
 
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Recession? What Recession?

Apple sold 6.3x more iphones in Q2 09 than Q2 08.

"Apple says that it sold 5.2 million iPhones during the quarter, growing an astounding 626% YoY. "

http://www.iphonestalk.com/despite-s...ver-year-5606/
 
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
Recession? What Recession?
Apple sold 6.3x more iphones in Q2 09 than Q2 08.
Q2 08 was bit unnatural for iPhone. Practically everybody who wanted it bought it already, everyone was waiting for 2nd generation and it was last period when iPhone was available only in USA.

So, why I think people generally overstate influence of recession on luxury products Apple situation is completely atypical.

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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
Recession? What Recession?

Apple sold 6.3x more iphones in Q2 09 than Q2 08.
Are you saying the N900 will outsell the iPhone? Or at least accomplish economy-defying sales, like the iPhone?

The Nokia marketing vids are amazing, but ... Nokia is no Apple when it comes to reality distortion fields, fanboys, etc. I don't doubt that the N900 will do _well_, but I do doubt that it'll outsell the iPhone.

And, if I was Nokia, I wouldn't bank on it defying the economy, either.

Frankly, if I were Nokia, I would:

a) make versions of the N900 for every carrier (Euro UMTS, AT&T UMTS, T-Mobile-USA UMTS, (Asian UMTS?), CDMA/EVDO, maybe even CDMA/EVDO/WiMAX). Do NOT support carrier exclusivity in ANY way. They have to be more like the Blackberry and Razor in this regard: have versions _everywhere_, so that people can choose the device without having to also make a decision about whether or not they should change carriers.

b) before Christmas, price them as close to break-even as possible, just to move them. Possibly even (just for the holidays) sell them for a modest/affordable loss. Definitely price them noticeably less than an iPhone.

c) create Ovi for Mac (at least) ASAP, and the PC Suite sync tools, as well. Supporting Linux wouldn't hurt either. In fact, making an overt play for the Linux market (a side campaign, playing up it's Linux base, and the fact that iTunes/iPhones don't support Linux users, but "Ovi/Maemo do") might be a sure fire way to capture a market that is craving a mobile device that covers to them directly. (even Android isn't doing that; and the Linux-lover's attitude toward Android is mixed, for various reasons I wont go into)

Don't view the N900 as a profit maker, view it as a way to get "Maemo into everyone's hands". Reserve profit making for the N910 or N1000. Each of the three things I said targets an area where you can compete with the iPhone (lack of carrier choice, obviously price, and lack of support for Linux users).

If Nokia wants to duplicate the iPhone's success in a bad economy, they have to do better marketing than the iPhone, but do it without counting on Steve Jobs like levels of reality distortion (because, no offence to Nokia, but they don't have a cult of fanboys buying whatever device their CEO talks about at the key note address).

Make it available everywhere, for less than an iPhone, and with better platform support than the iPhone. Combine that with an aggressive sales campaign ... and then there's a chance they'll defy the economy.
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Originally Posted by qwerty12 View Post
I'm guessing that this is because the tablet itself does not have SyncML support but Nokia PC Suite is able to sync to a SyncML server.
Then they shouldn't say it supports SyncML. (I cannot run Nokia PC Suit here or any of their lovely applications, thank you very much.)

I only hope they make sure current SyncML-solutions (like syncevolution) for the N8x0 still work. Otherwise I'll send a mail to their wonderful customer support.
 
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