Originally Posted by igguk1

I knew I was going to get some beating when I wrote about the true openness Sailfish and more so here.

Look in all I am very happy this is happening now and I am looking forward for them to succeed, as I see it this can only benefit people who is favoring the open-source movement. I like also how they are promoting Qt as for development toolkit
I am just a bit worried as to why the Jolla team does not openly discuss what are their future plans for open-sourcing the closed parts… the UX and the drivers, I understand they might not be able to do so now because being a small company on a Shark territory they might lose some competitive advantage, but still they could openly discuss if they plan to do so at some point in the future.
Would everybody here for instance be happy knowing that the closed parts will remain like so forever? I know my answer.

When I said Android is more open than Sailfish now is because it is, heck even somebody skilled enough could cook their own ROM, all is available there and for instance Ubuntu people are taking advantage of it, and yes you can have a terminal on it if you wish don’t forget it’s based still on a linux core , please don’t tell me about Google evil company I know about it don’t like it either… but is not the matter we are discussing here.

That’s all that I wanted to say and I know that while I will get again a beating here, I am voicing also some concerns that maybe a small part of this forums has.
As I don’t want to start a war here about this, this will be my last comment on it I will just continue to read the forums and Jolla news and probably will get the phone when released.

I said in the post before that the hardware does not appeal to me (that was bound to happen with the resources they have) but I forgot to add that I like very much what I see about the Os's and that if well executed which is a very big If "the Other half" idea may be the disrupting thing Elop was chasing years ago...

Originally Posted by jalyst

>5" & a attachable/modular keyb? No thanks.

Originally Posted by Dave999

I would love to see the next jolla device with keyboard. I'm not to fund of the idea of attachable keyboard.

Hope some 3pty android device manufacturer joins the boat and launching a slick keyboard device.

Originally Posted by Kangal

Why not?
111 x 73 x 8.5 mm dimensions.

Add in a thin hardware keyboard that "clicks" on one side of the device's backside. It stays firmly hooked, is static (non-slider/non-adjustable).The keyboard measuring the same length, but smaller width and a thin profile. Something like 111 x 63 x 4.5 mm

When not in use, the keyboard can be turned the other way so that it clips with the keyboard facing "in" to be a single unit with your phone. That brings the total dimensions of the phone with the keyboard closed to 111 x 73 (slightly larger than SGS3) x 13mm (about as thin as the Droid 3).

Maybe not those exact dimensions/figures... but you get the idea.

Originally Posted by RX-51

Regarding that hardware-keyboard it's supposed to exist at one point. At least from the technical possibility citing Dillon on techcrunch:

“Of course we will be offering a choice of Other Halves for the user to buy but this is a place where we want to see others get involved. Designers can design Other Halves for the device, engineers or hackers or techies can design new interfaces and maybe add physical hardware features that they wish they had on their device but might have a smaller market than to deserve having a whole entire device,”


http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/20/jollas-other-half/

Originally Posted by ZogG

afaik China is not in preorder country list. I tried to pre-order and got answer that it doesn't ship in my country

Originally Posted by misterc

how do you see what you are typing if the keyboard keys are ON THE BACK of the device only?
explain.
a drawing says more then thousand words...

got it, looked @ the amazon cr@p
no go, can't walk or even only stand & type at the same time
worthless

Then you come to even more complex options as well. The most interesting thing to me personally is that with other products you have ways to extend them by plugging things in, where as with Jolla devices you may snap on a cover that adds other functionality. For example, if you’re going to a club you might want to snap on a back that has a big flash and maybe a big camera button or something. You might also want additional battery capacity, and you may also use a cover with at thin battery to bring that functionality. The sky is the limit and we’re open for collaboration and ideas here, and these interfaces and features will be open to third parties to allow them to create other apps and features for Jolla.

P: I’m sure you’re aware that one of the biggest other-half possibilities we’ve heard, on Twitter and in comments, is one that supports a physical QWERTY keyboard. Is that a possibility?

MD: I have a big smile on my face! The sky is the limit, and the imagination is the limit for what can be done with the other-half.