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Thanks 4 sharing and, yes, actually it is nicelite 2

Thank you, thank you, thank you.
This update is wonderful for my old tired eyes

I was reading the other thread about where to put themes and Betty Woo's entry got me thinking about different versions. Could there be a version of nuvoClear that has the background to the digital clock transparent, and another version that has the entire clock (analog/digital) transparent so all one sees is the day and date?

I love seeing all the different screen shots in this thread. It would be great if there could be two threads - one with screenshots only, and another with text discussing tips on how to set things up.

ThemeMaker creates not just a .deb of the theme, but a folder of the theme contents and parts. The icons and images are broken down into individual .pngs and placed into a separate "images" folder *during or after* the .debbing process.

I imagine that this folder gets created or transferred into a theme folder in your N8xx's system during the installation process.

My Wish List:

This "images" folder can be created *before* ThemeMaker creates a .deb and not as a consequence of creating a .deb.

This would allow the theme's maker to be able to swap out, replace, change individual icon, image and applet .pngs in this folder before the .debbing process.

This would be great since that would make the theme customizable to whatever *your* wants are - transparent clock but non-transparent internet search applet? Pick those two particular .pgns from a list of .pgn choices (or suite of choices in a folder downloaded via something like Megaupload), drag and drop it into the "images" folder and, voila! ThemeMaker will make a .deb complete with those two particular features.

You want a clock with a transparent clock face with larger visible black dots or internet radio box that's as small and transparent-while-still-being-function but with a solid black frame around the task navigator and applets? How 'bout only the date portion of the clock applet... in a large black font? Or white font? Or middle-sized blue font? You get the idea... .

This would be great - especially since the new version of ThemeMaker apparently pairs up a background image with a preferred theme so that when you chose 'Set theme...' you're also chosing the background image you've connected to that particular theme (Sorry... could be wrong about this since I'm still playing with the older version of ThemeMaker ).

And by breaking down the customization of icons / applets into only playing with one particular .png at a time (as opposed to manipulating the huge theme-template.png currently part of ThemeMaker that requires you to set all your preferred features on the theme-template.png), I think people would get a lot more creative and encouraged to try to make and share icon and applet versions of their own.

For instance, I find I have ideas that don't get played with simply because experimenting and trying things out gets time-consuming and disorganized when dealing with two or three element modifications on the theme-template.png that seems to have at least one hundred images, the theme-template.png than having to be .debbed, then having to be bluetoothed over to the N800, then having to be installed, then... .

This streamlined process would be great for people like me who have enough brain cells to play with some elementary PhotoShop/GIMP features to create/alter images to suite my needs but who have no background in Linux and an aversion to going root unless absolutely necessary because I might royally screw my system up since I really, truly, don't know what I'm doing.

Of course, I might be biased here since I'm trying to figure out exactly the steps to get my new, improved, semi-transparent task navigator icons into the proper folder and for them to show up. More putzing required (during a Mariners game tonight)

Oh, keeping with the original thread... here's my current trial-'n-error screenshot of one of my modified clocks.

As a newbie to the internet tablet and to Linux I'm all for making things easy and simple.
And keeping with the thread here a screenshot of my current desktop. As you can see I'm trying out the new version of OMW and decided to remove my background image.

Well, that's why there is the repackage button. So, after you have created the theme, I leave the folder there so that you can edit it as you see fit. You can also add new images in there and if you want, you can add postinst scripts to copy move or whatnot those images, audio, video or whatnot files to any place on the device.

So, after you've done your modifications, just click the repackage and it'll make the packaging, but won't extract the images from the template.

This is what I did:

1. Opened the 'images' folder of FF4CLOCK (name of trial theme in last screenshot I submitted) that I had sitting in the ThemeMaker 1.1.2 folder on my desktop.

2. Duplicated qgn_plat_clock_analog_am.png.

3. Dragged the qgn_plat_clock_analog_am copy.png over to GIMP (hey! It's less intimidating than PhotoShop!) to manipulate the file a bit by replacing all the clock's 5-minute marks with white dots instead of black dots for the 12 - 3 - 6 - 9 times).

4. Saved the modified image as qgn_plat_clock_analog_am - ALL WHITE AND CLEAR.png and dragged it back to the 'images' folder of FF4CLOCK.

5. Removed the original qgn_plat_clock_analog_am.png file and renamed the qgn_plat_clock_analog_am - ALL WHITE AND CLEAR.png to qgn_plat_clock_analog_am.png (so that it replaces the original file).

6. Start up ThemeMaker OSX (I'm on a Mac)

7. This is where I get lost. I'm not sure how to actually repackage the .deb since the Theme Source Image text field is showing the large template.png I'd originally used for the last theme and when I try to browse, I can't choose either the FF4CLOCK folder or the 'images' folder in FF4CLOCK as the Theme Source Image.

I'm not sure, then, how ThemeMaker is suppose to find the modified 'images' folder if I can't choose it for Theme Source Image and the only thing that seems to be chose-able is the large template.png.

I tried hitting Repackage! (with the large template.png chosen for Theme Source Image) just to see if some how the modified clock .pgns 'images' folder was included in the FF4CLOCK .deb.

Very quickly I got a 'Build successful!' message.

So I bluetoothed the FF4CLOCK.deb over to the N800, saved, opened, chose it as a theme and instead of working, it made the theme look really elemental with none of the lovely nuvo theme .pngs at all. Then the N800 shut down. When I rebooted, it defaulted to the Echo theme.

I redid these steps with a different theme name (and .deb) and got the same result.

Sorry I'm not understanding. I'm sure this is probably much more familiar to others who know Linux much more than me

I just don't get how to repackage the .deb and your nice tutorial doesn't go through the actual steps on how to do it.

If anyone wants to try to explain it to me, that would be very helpful. Then... watch me go nuts with the theme mods!

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Ok, here is where you took the wrong choice. You should just save it on top of the old image. Then open theme maker, keep the same settings you had when you created the theme, DO NOT change the source image either. Then just click re-package. It will then just package the whole images folder as it is.