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	schettj	2010-06-08 , 18:51
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Originally Posted by Jykke

10 reasons not to buy Apple's new iPhone 4G:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...iPhone-4G.html

Wow, those have to be the 10 worst reasons I could come up with

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nosa101	2010-06-08 , 18:53
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Originally Posted by patlak

For instance, what?????

Any new app that uses the gyroscope

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patlak	2010-06-08 , 18:56
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Originally Posted by nosa101

Any new app that uses the gyroscope

For navigation purposes,ok. For games, I don't need a wii in the metro

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nosa101	2010-06-08 , 18:58
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Originally Posted by patlak

For navigation purposes,ok. For games, I don't need a wii in the metro

The fact you don't need it doesn't mean someone else wouldnt. I don't need MMS but not including MMS on the n900 was just poor form

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patlak	2010-06-08 , 19:03
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Originally Posted by nosa101

The fact you don't need it doesn't mean someone else wouldnt. I don't need MMS but not including MMS on the n900 was just poor form

And lack of MMS on the iphone was ok? N900 is an internet tablet first, send a multimedia file through email.

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nosa101	2010-06-08 , 19:09
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Originally Posted by patlak

And lack of MMS on the iphone was ok? N900 is an internet tablet first, send a multimedia file through email.

Nobody said it was ok. The iPhone got criticized for that and they added it officially. Nokia flat out said "no" and told us to use fmms. Why couldn't they do the same thing they did with petrovich?

The n900 is an internet tablet first, theN why include SMS? Why include a feature if you ate going to half *** it? I'd rather not have it at all than have to wonder what could have been.

Say what you want about apple, thy respond to consumer needs. MMS then multitasking. Nokia on the other hand...

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	imperiallight	2010-06-08 , 19:10
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Ok I set up a thread for constructive ideas on features to make the n900 successor a competitive phone given all the talk about the iphone 4:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...875#post705875

What are your three changes or steps to make the n900 successor a decent purchase/alternative?

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patlak	2010-06-08 , 19:21
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Originally Posted by nosa101

Nobody said it was ok. The iPhone got criticized for that and they added it officially. Nokia flat out said "no" and told us to use fmms. Why couldn't they do the same thing they did with petrovich?

The n900 is an internet tablet first, theN why include SMS? Why include a feature if you ate going to half *** it? I'd rather not have it at all than have to wonder what could have been.

Say what you want about apple, thy respond to consumer needs. MMS then multitasking. Nokia on the other hand...

MMS is not a feature thats quite used. people complain for a missing feature just because they want to have it and brag about it.

It took apple 3 years to include multitasking, finally in the 4th iteration of the os and is not quite true multitasking. If it was up to them, they would have not included it. It is pointless to call it a smartphone without multitasking. The competition has forced them, not consumers. Apple differs in their method, but they do manage to bring attention due to this.

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	ysss	2010-06-08 , 19:22
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Originally Posted by patlak

It's a 600 euro device. The iphone has apps which cost 4.99 each that are required to make it even with a 450 euro N8. Is that how you see the future?

Uh yeah, or they can make the iPhone priced $204 and $304 and people will still b*tch: "just make it $199 and $299 and let us buy the app separately if we friggin want it.

Ps: iPhone apps are pretty much the cheapest 'smartphone apps' around due to their large and active marketsize. Compare any titles available on both iPhone and n900 for clear proofs (angry birds, 3d coaster series, etc)

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wmarone	2010-06-08 , 19:31
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Originally Posted by nosa101

The iPhone got criticized for that and they added it officially.

The iPhone was also loudly marketed as a phone.

Nokia flat out said "no" and told us to use fmms. Why couldn't they do the same thing they did with petrovich?

Because MMS fundamentally required breaking the persistent internet connection and swapping over to an alternate access point to do the download. Newer kernels have somewhat resolved this, but Nokia focused ENTIRELY on standard internet protocols and not on hackjob telecom protocols.

But at the same time, the device is open enough that fMMS could come into existence. So you can have MMSes while I continue to not use them, and save the memory/space the software would otherwise have occupied.