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2011-08-13 , 03:56
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2011-08-13 , 04:06
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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! View Post
I will contest you on your ownerships bud. I have spent mightily on NOKIA, even tried N8 and E6. I bought 5 iphone 3gs that i distributed to family members and have bough 4 unlocked iphone 4s from Canada. If you want a worry free phone, ask Ysss, he owns one. iphone 4 delivers. Never owned Android and have no interest to do so.

The only reasonable person here is ericsson. He is the only one who gets it. NOKIA CAN NOT deliver complex software, period.
Meanwhile, somewhere on the web...

 

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2011-08-13 , 04:13
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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! View Post
I will contest you on your ownerships bud. I have spent mightily on NOKIA
Good for you. Now what's killing me... I was able to walk away from Apple with a realistic outlook. You're walking towards Apple with a rather unrealistic outlook. It's not an end-all, be-all product. It needs you to buy into their iTunes based ecosystem to be halfway effective and useful.

I didn't buy anything Nokia until they became part of the community that I support, the open source community. They didn't "buy" into that. They supported it. And that community isn't based on the billions and billions of dollars that can be made. It's about fixing a problem, sharing the solution. That's why GitHub is great. People share code... give it away.

And then it's used by many. You get respect via merit. Not money. And to some, that's a killer concept. It's not competition. Everybody is fighting for the same crowd each year. Blackberry lost share, Samsung gained share. Nokia lost share, Apple gained share.

Very little growth in that competitive situation. But if you were to be more collaborative, then what? You all benefit. Even the people that leech off, never give back. One day, they might want to give back.

It's hard to grasp that when all you want to see and do is spread your distaste for all of those Nokia phones that you bought. That's your dumb decision to keep supporting them.

I bought the 8890, the 7190 (or 7160, starting to forget), and didn't buy into Nokia until the 770. Meanwhile, you kept buying their phones, absorbing their reticent, yet competitive economy based musings... and now you're shunning their attempt to be a company that went to the Linux Foundation. That tried to create a community that wasn't just about buy, buy, buy.

That's a quick, improperly stated look into what the open source community means to many folks.

Apple doesn't do that. They don't even give all of their Webkit code to that community.

even tried N8 and E6.
I didn't. How were they? I avoided Symbian completely.

I bought 5 iphone 3gs that i distributed to family members and have bough 4 unlocked iphone 4s from Canada.
Great. But how many were yours again? That's the important metric here.

If you want a worry free phone, ask Ysss, he owns one. iphone 4 delivers. Never owned Android and have no interest to do so.
We have 4 iPhone 4's in the office. They're not bad at all. Just not for me. I never said the iPhone was a bad platform. In fact, I've only stated that they didn't really deliver until the iPhone 3GS.

The iPhone 4 came at a time I started to decide to give back to the open source community. 15 years of being a leech, using Linux, never giving back. I switched. And haven't been more busy...

The only reasonable person here is ericsson. He is the only one who gets it. NOKIA CAN NOT deliver complex software, period.
Perhaps they cannot. That's why this community exists - or existed, I fear that the time is gonna be short.

I am not a person that will not say Nokia has not goofed up enough times to where I can't stand Nokia personally. They don't get it. Their culture is closed off. Nokia is so old and stodgy that I cannot help but wonder how they ever got the idea for Maemo. Who gave it to them?

And why didn't they do more with it?

Regardless, your constant whinging is nearly textbook insanity. Sure, you're unhappy. But have a point. Sure you hate Nokia... guess what? You're probably not alone in that regard. Sure you think the N9 won't be a blockbuster phone - I also agree in that regard too. It won't sell millions. It won't even be a blip on the radar in the next ten years - I just earlier couldn't remember which damn Nokia I used to have. In ten years, I'll forget about the N9.

But dude... make a damn point for once. Provisioning... that affected me. Sold the N900 for more than I paid for it. Horrible telephony? I pointed out that I couldn't even answer the damn thing without it "hanging"... got chased with torches, pitchforks.

Anyway, my lengthy rant/response is over. Make more sense in the future. You're not a dumb dude. Stop acting dumb.
 

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2011-08-13 , 04:26
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
@BigBadGuber: Interesting post. I always feel more intelligent after reading your thoughts and ideas.
Bollocks and you know it
 
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2011-08-13 , 04:29
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#3945
Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Good for you. Now what's killing me... I was able to walk away from Apple with a realistic outlook. You're walking towards Apple with a rather unrealistic outlook. It's not an end-all, be-all product. It needs you to buy into their iTunes based ecosystem to be halfway effective and useful.

I didn't buy anything Nokia until they became part of the community that I support, the open source community. They didn't "buy" into that. They supported it. And that community isn't based on the billions and billions of dollars that can be made. It's about fixing a problem, sharing the solution. That's why GitHub is great. People share code... give it away.

And then it's used by many. You get respect via merit. Not money. And to some, that's a killer concept. It's not competition. Everybody is fighting for the same crowd each year. Blackberry lost share, Samsung gained share. Nokia lost share, Apple gained share.

Very little growth in that competitive situation. But if you were to be more collaborative, then what? You all benefit. Even the people that leech off, never give back. One day, they might want to give back.

It's hard to grasp that when all you want to see and do is spread your distaste for all of those Nokia phones that you bought. That's your dumb decision to keep supporting them.

I bought the 8890, the 7190 (or 7160, starting to forget), and didn't buy into Nokia until the 770. Meanwhile, you kept buying their phones, absorbing their reticent, yet competitive economy based musings... and now you're shunning their attempt to be a company that went to the Linux Foundation. That tried to create a community that wasn't just about buy, buy, buy.

That's a quick, improperly stated look into what the open source community means to many folks.

Apple doesn't do that. They don't even give all of their Webkit code to that community.



I didn't. How were they? I avoided Symbian completely.



Great. But how many were yours again? That's the important metric here.



We have 4 iPhone 4's in the office. They're not bad at all. Just not for me. I never said the iPhone was a bad platform. In fact, I've only stated that they didn't really deliver until the iPhone 3GS.

The iPhone 4 came at a time I started to decide to give back to the open source community. 15 years of being a leech, using Linux, never giving back. I switched. And haven't been more busy...



Perhaps they cannot. That's why this community exists - or existed, I fear that the time is gonna be short.

I am not a person that will not say Nokia has not goofed up enough times to where I can't stand Nokia personally. They don't get it. Their culture is closed off. Nokia is so old and stodgy that I cannot help but wonder how they ever got the idea for Maemo. Who gave it to them?

And why didn't they do more with it?

Regardless, your constant whinging is nearly textbook insanity. Sure, you're unhappy. But have a point. Sure you hate Nokia... guess what? You're probably not alone in that regard. Sure you think the N9 won't be a blockbuster phone - I also agree in that regard too. It won't sell millions. It won't even be a blip on the radar in the next ten years - I just earlier couldn't remember which damn Nokia I used to have. In ten years, I'll forget about the N9.

But dude... make a damn point for once. Provisioning... that affected me. Sold the N900 for more than I paid for it. Horrible telephony? I pointed out that I couldn't even answer the damn thing without it "hanging"... got chased with torches, pitchforks.

Anyway, my lengthy rant/response is over. Make more sense in the future. You're not a dumb dude. Stop acting dumb.
I dont hate NOKIA. As a matter of fact, I would love to support NOKIA. Competition is good, and I loved their phones. But they lack that umphaa that Americans love. That attention to the user, that anal worship of perfect. Lets admit it, they lacked it. And Americans love stuff that is idiot proof, and to make a device that is idiot proof requires a lot of effort and a lot of anality that NOKIA simply didnt have. Even their E71 bestseller didnt have an easy way to change font sizes!!!!! I mean how stupid is that? The search function was awful. Come on.

Stop judging who is dumb and who is smart. These forums are for free flowing opinions that will be subjected to ridicule, criticism and cudos. I could care less if people love or hate what I say. I am sharing one experience with these phones, and if it resonates with some, great, if not ignore it.
 
abill_uk is offline abill_uk
2011-08-13 , 04:32
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#3946
From what i have read on here, every N9 owner can look forward to endless support from this community, so who WHO needs Nokia? .

We have some of the world's greats on here including ysss who will keep everything going just the way you want.

Anyhow let's concentrate on buying the device first, i can offer a meager few but who else is going to help out the members who want the N9? and at a fair dinkum price !.
 
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2011-08-13 , 04:45
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#3947
Originally Posted by catbus View Post
Should I change my nick to AstroTurf now? Or Astro, maybe that would be more sexy?
Castroburf

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Why do people predict that the Apple iPhone 5 will be different from the rest of their offerings... because it has a different back? Or perhaps a 4 inch screen?

I get it. You love what you love. Yet you're arguing with folks that love what they love. Makes absolutely zero sense.

In fact, you're doing and saying the same thing, expecting something different; yet you get the same results.

That's pretty much the classic definition of insanity...
Was that aimed at any ONE person in this place?

Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
From what i have read on here, every N9 owner can look forward to endless support from this community, so who WHO needs Nokia? .

We have some of the world's greats on here including ysss who will keep everything going just the way you want.

Anyhow let's concentrate on buying the device first, i can offer a meager few but who else is going to help out the members who want the N9? and at a fair dinkum price !.
TOO RIGHT! You tell 'em! ...well, until Nokia pulls funding and denies your use of the Maemo trademarks and name and... well... so much for Maemo. Period. But RAAAA! There's MEEGO! ...until LinuxFoundation does something with THAT domain and trademark.. err... screw it! WHO NEEDS SUPPORT, AM I RIGHT? RIGHT??? Oh bother. :P
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2011-08-13 , 05:04
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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! View Post
Stop judging who is dumb and who is smart.
The irony is not lost on me... it really isn't.
 

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2011-08-13 , 05:16
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
The irony is not lost on me... it really isn't.
Stooooop... stop it.
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2011-08-13 , 06:03
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#3950
Originally Posted by scapegoat845 View Post
Expansys Update: France, Spain and USA......

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/13/no...a-at-expansys/
Geez expansys is feeling like their retail distributor for the world.
Great for expansys (maybe), but I hope there's a truck load of other retail channels.
 
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