I hesitated to enter this conversation, but I got to wondering... Could testerj's N800 just have been b0rked from the get-go?

I mean, I don't think I've come across one website that didn't render at least 95% of what it was supposed to. My personal PIM/webmail suite (group-office.com) is Ajax-heavy PHP and it works flawlessly -- hell, my own website (stricken with non-compliant html, Prototype and Rico Ajax, etc.) works fine on my N800.

Likewise, my IT has become a desktop replacement. Everything I need to do for work (aside from running Photoshop, Final Cut, Protools, etc.) can be done on my N800. I use Microsoft Exchange, convert Word Docs to PDFs, write, sketch...

Anyway, as someone who isn't entirely comfortable in Linux or the command line, I can honestly say that my only disappointments have been:

1. The OS2007 (and less) firmware update process.
2. Lack of an integrated PIM.
3. Lack of desktop-to-IT syncing tool.

That's hardly enough for me to complain about the $400 I spent -- especially considering all of the friends I've made through the maemo community!

Tim

P.S. Posted from my N800 while my son watches Veggie Tales.

I don't understand why you are getting upset. I'd agree that the email client is awful but the rest ....
Virtually all websites work as expected, yes there are the occasional formatting issues but nothing too bad.
Using mplayer I have no problems viewing videos.
Heck it even plays music.
In all it's the best electrical product I've bought, i can't even remember where my ipod mini is.

There aren't even 5 videoplayers for the Itablets. As far as I know there are only two: the built in Media Player and Mplayer. Sure, there are lots of front-ends, but they all use one of those players.

I do agree that the dysfunctional webcam blows big baby chunks...

Ah, but that's my point. I did get what I paid for. You didn't...
You wanted a device that does not exist yet from any manufacturer, and pro'ly never will.
Nokia didn't promote it as being anything more than it is. A collection of hardware that can do many things, not ALL things.
Looking at the hardware I knew it could do what I wanted it to do. But, like the collection of links I provided, I also knew I had to do some of the work too.
My complaint would be that it still can't connect to an iDEN BT phone. I can't whine to much about that because it still connects to "most" BT phones as they advertised, but I know since I submitted the bug, they are working on it. They told me so.

And BTW, since you brought up "family", you could be wrong about that too.

what he wants is an eee except w/ the power of a dell xps, i mean, he really wants a full computer inhis pocket which is ridiculous, while i admit it's a little labor extensive getting it to work just as you want, you dont have to be a linux geek, or dabble at all(thx to this site), but i do see some things that he said that are true, such as the fact that video is not comparable to devices w/ similar processing power, like the psp will play video better is what i meant, though transcoding is needed for it too i guess, my psp format vids wont play well on my device, buthey livable, nokia is doing a great thing here though, so dont complain so much, we here are like the beta testers ok? nokia was ahead of the curve with the 770, now everybody else is catching up, but nokia is getting everything right, and its taking our ideas and integrating them, we all know the keyboard on the 810 is cause so many people here use bt keyboards, they make it more and more useable every time, only the iPhone devices are really main stream, and look where they are, they are haveing trouble everywhere, every step of the way, but here we are using debian, which (no offense) was kinda hard to use, at least compared, but look where we are, the 2nd gen, and going strong
and btw, w/ every new os release things get hard to get used to(this is off topic) and as is the nature of them, as they try to get things right, and i think they should give those developers theirs earlier or work with them when making it, as they are pretty open, so as the released product is more ready for apps

The only use I've found for the N800 camera is as a fix for bug #2311 when OS2008 disables all the buttons... how cr@p is that, Nokia?

There are these wonderful little things called periods and paragraphs. Learn how to use them.

Ah, some refreshing rant.
Yes, I too could blast away my internal frustrations with this tablet, but at some point one must ask themselves where is the real stuggle? hmmm
Ya its the tablet.

When I was shopping for just an mp3 player, I pondered what the point was of spending $300+ for a one trick pony that just played about 256mb of music out of the box. So with phone company promos I ended up with the so-called mighty Treo650, which was really priced about $700. After a time with that chicklet screen and tragically limited OS, I discovered a saving grace thanks to Zlauncher and their contribution that pulled the old OS up off the ground for a while longer and bridged memory card access issues as well. How many generations of Palm was that?..and still it was wrought with lots of end user problems.
My point being that while I can agree with the elements of frustration, I would say this IT (N800) is a heck of a device for its price notably compared to my Treo650 at close to double or a locked up iPhone or the much storied Blackberry which does what really?, for far too much money.

So before I sound like a cheerleader, I certainly have really cursed in newbie angst at the various glitches and instability of the N800 I have seen.
Yet here I am, immediately surfing into Maemo digging for the latest, and fishing out even the Beta's in the enthusiasm to look ahead. Personalizing to my own.
I want the leading edge with a good growth curve, NOT the Blackberry/iPhone prepackaged locked in a can no third party apps, here have a calendar/calculator kind of product.
When I think of what I have seen in growth and developments in just under a year here, I sit back with a little more 'Patience' and welcome the next progressions.
That said, N810 was definitely not where I thought things would go next.
Now I am shopping for dual 16g sdhc's for my N800, and trying to be clear with myself as to "my" prime points of usage.

So to all those suffering great cynism, go buy another piggish vulnerable Microsoft product and arm load of WM5/6 programs for $60+ each, to do the basics that Palm was doing years ago for close to free.

My father always said: "Progress not Perfection".

Also, I noted that you only used one space after the period following the word "paragraph". Please use the two, as is standard. The same applies for your period followed by an emoticon.

That standard only applies to print, not to online/electronic documents.