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#31
Originally Posted by R-R View Post
Oh, missed the fact that gizmo might add jabber support :-)

But still, I'd rather have all this working on FOSS frameworks and not have to deal with gizmo's over complex interface, their accounts, their licenses, etc... i just want plain simple jingle in OS :-)
*facepalm*

Gizmo *is* Jabber.
 
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt View Post
If you are an N800 owner, how often do you use the camera?
Does the N800 have a camera? I saw that in the press release and in the Nokia website, but i never found a useful camera in the N800 itself.

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At least the crappy camera works. I remember when I bought the VAIO TR1 and after three months of use the still/webcam passed away. No warranty for that. All the TR series has the infamous camera problem. Another great fiasco!! In the N800 case, I can just complain about a 1GB SD killed.
 
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Originally Posted by Toontje View Post
Does the N800 have a camera? I saw that in the press release and in the Nokia website, but i never found a useful camera in the N800 itself.

Ton.
Indeed it does! It's located on the upper left edge of the N800. You simply push in to pop it out, and push back in to hide it. Once popped out, you can rotate it to point towards or away from you.

It's designed as a web camera, not a camera for photography. Some users have complained about the low quality output that the camera produces. However, it seems as though quality aside, it's a capable and functional hardware component for the N800.

Likewise, the N810 has a camera; though it is embedded in the N810 body, and cannot be moved. It appears as though the (low) quality of the N810 camera is very similar to the quality of the N800 camera.

So far (I'm told) very few applications support the camera on the N810.


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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt View Post
Indeed it does! It's located on the upper left edge of the N800. You simply push in to pop it out, and push back in to hide it. Once popped out, you can rotate it to point towards or away from you.
Ah, the thing that locked up my n800 because it wants to automagically launch an application that is the ONLY application that works with the camera, and nobody in the world uses that application? That is what you mean?

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt View Post
It's designed as a web camera, not a camera for photography.
Really? So how can i publish my webcam on the internet then? I mean, web cam, web....

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt View Post
Some users have complained about the low quality output that the camera produces. However, it seems as though quality aside, it's a capable and functional hardware component for the N800.
That lacks software support, yes.

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt View Post
So far (I'm told) very few applications support the camera on the N810.
Exactly. That's why i said USEFUL camera. I knew the N800 had one, i moved up from the 770 to the N800 for Skype and video calling. Yes, i too was one of the many that unintentionally and totally ignorant of reality made that connection.

Just dropped my N800 on eBay.

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#36
I agree with HeavyT. While there is alot to like, I bought this SPECIFICALLY for the video chat to family at home on the PC. I didn't buy a video walkie-talkie. I now have Gizmo running, but the transmitted image from the N800 is terrible. The incoming image is pretty good. Kudos to Gizmo Project. Still not happy with Nokia. But I'm not close minded about it...yet.
 
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Originally Posted by Toontje View Post
Ah, the thing that locked up my n800 because it wants to automagically launch an application that is the ONLY application that works with the camera, and nobody in the world uses that application? That is what you mean?
In OS2008 this choice is yours. If you want it to automatically launch the Internet calling app it will, if not it does nothing.

OS2008 also video support over SIP (h.263 video) which looks much better then Gizmo video IMO. I would also support video over Jabber to a PC whenever someone finally makes a Jabber client that supports jingle-video. I'm betting we'll see Googles Gtalk Jabber client add this in 2008. In that respect Nokia is ahead of curve.

Originally Posted by Toontje View Post
Really? So how can i publish my webcam on the internet then? I mean, web cam, web....
You could use the "motion" application that someone compiled a while back. Has several options including serving up a mjpeg image with a pretty impressive frame rate. I think it would need to be re-compiled for OS2008 though.

Originally Posted by Toontje View Post
Exactly. That's why i said USEFUL camera. I knew the N800 had one, i moved up from the 770 to the N800 for Skype and video calling. Yes, i too was one of the many that unintentionally and totally ignorant of reality made that connection.
Personally I think that is a Skype issue. I would be nice if Skype included video. However making the leap that because the tablet had Skype and a little camera it could do video calls is a bit much. Especially considering Skype only recently released a linux beta of any kind with video support.

But it sounds like eBay has solved this problem
 
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Originally Posted by Toontje View Post
Exactly. That's why i said USEFUL camera. I knew the N800 had one, i moved up from the 770 to the N800 for Skype and video calling. Yes, i too was one of the many that unintentionally and totally ignorant of reality made that connection.
Haha. I must have been wearing my sarcasm ******ant PJs. I'll try to be less helpful in the future .


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Originally Posted by Moonshine View Post
But it sounds like eBay has solved this problem
Almost. Almost.
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Originally Posted by Moonshine View Post
......Personally I think that is a Skype issue. I would be nice if Skype included video. However making the leap that because the tablet had Skype and a little camera it could do video calls is a bit much. Especially considering Skype only recently released a linux beta of any kind with video support.

But it sounds like eBay has solved this problem
Am I mistaken, was there not a Nokia's video that came with the N800 showing it being used in a video call?
 
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