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@microe: As I said this was an experiment to see how much of our work worked right on the device. Fbreader is not rotating the X (I know you do no care as long as it work) but as it prints text, it's easier, but we also do this in software and we loose performance) so patching the X to work on OMAP is needed to have normal performance.

But to your points : yeah, for sure the + and - are needed, but don't worry you can select the side you want to rotate, it can be any side or even backwards but if you use this with fbreader : fbreader as it is today, I GUESS it will be on landscape mode but of course the guys are fast and this should be so easy to do for them. Just do not turn

Now the point : I don't think I would use the + and - sign like them but this is another UI matter discussion that I don't think it's time to go in here (after all we are a touchscreen based application, we only exist because we want to use touch screen) but support for hardware keys should be quite consistent across the whole UI.

@dlhuss : yes, this is by far the biggest profit from portrait, but in the ergonomics i think you should have a bigger hand then mine to use with one hand you can see in the video how much effort I need to do

@Zeez : it rotates the X, so all applications are actually running on a 480x800 screen, unfortunately (like our landscape screens) most will not work correctly because some items will be out of screen, and theres no way to scroll as it is : /
If we release something like this, we will make sure you rotate back to landscape when leaving canola. Rotating there, should be your decision not ours

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#32
Originally Posted by Aisu View Post
Definitely would love portrait mode. But, only if Nokia will modify the default kernel.

I don't want to imagine flashing the thing twice every time I screw it up... Too much flashing
I definitely agree with this perspective. On several occasions I have wanted to view a web page in portrait mode, but I don't want to re-re-flash the kernel just to do so.

I think having xrandr integrated into the kernel would also benefit left-handed users (i.e. rotate 180 degrees). Granted, you would still need some way to remap the up/down left/right buttons...

+1 on portrait mode / xrandr functionality!
 
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Portrait mode support would be fantastic. Nokia should contribute some $$ to the Canola dev. effort
 
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Spartan : we are a small company, non-profit organization actually that was funded by Nokia (hence the name : INDT = Instituto NOKIA de tecnologia) or something like, Nokia technology institute)

So in a sense, they do "help" us, without them we wouldn't exist so look at us, as part of the team, but doing experiments in other areas The real team has to keep a huge project going on , and this is the hardest task we are "experimenting" and improving the tablet they brilliant develop

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Originally Posted by Aisu View Post
Definitely would love portrait mode. But, only if Nokia will modify the default kernel.

I don't want to imagine flashing the thing twice every time I screw it up... Too much flashing
But you can flash the kernel from on the OS, right, with Fanoush's kernel_flasher?

So it should be installable via .deb, if someone were bold enough.
 
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Reggie and handful,

Canola ROCKS!!!
Best app so far.
Adding rotation would be tremendous improvement to Canola. If you can integrate rotation into Nokia kernel it would be time to celebrate! If you added that tiltstick type of app the n800 would go into a whole new dimension of portable computing. Can you imagine what you could do with games and text doc and the web would get really crazy. I've seen youtube vids on desktops doing these kinds of things. Please make rotation possible in Canola and then kernel wide then tiltstick app. Dan
 
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@Dan, thanks for the nice words... but ... Tiltstick without the sensor on hardware for that is not good (doing only with camera tracking) and it would eat a considerable amount of cpu (that we cannot waste)

About the kernel, it's already on the linux omap tree so if nokia updates we get the patch the xomap is a little bit more complicated, but if everyone keep asking maybe they will add

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#38
way much better!!!! do it do it do it!
 
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#39
After viewing it third time I see only one possible improvement: all flows (lists, covers, photos, etc.) should be vertical in portrait mode.

Apart from that: perfect
 
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@vvz : yeah, for sure, covers and other grids just don't work the way they are in portrait too much noise grid, vertical scrolling to them all

Thanks for the nice words we were really happy to see that we "did" the home work, doing things "resolution independent" (or screen size independent)
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