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	BrentDC	2008-08-26 , 01:09
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Originally Posted by Redshift

I hope the revisions to the UI include removing the tap and hold mechanism for simulating right clicking. This is one feature of the current UI that drives me nuts, because it's so inconsistent and I have to try several times to get it too work. Not only that, but frequently the menu shows up where your finger or stylus are obstructing your view of the menu. It'd be great if the menus just popped up when you select the item, and in a place where they won't be obstructed from view.

I also agree with the comment that titlebars are unneccesary. Again, they seem to be a vestigial carryover from desktop UIs. This would free up more space for status bar icons.

Oh, man, I love that feature. When I had a Palm TX, I always wished more applications would take advantage of that...

BTW, I'm also extremely impressed with the N8X0's touchscreen. After 4 Palm TX's failing from 'Digitizer Drift' or 'Dead Spots'' it is certainly a relief.

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	Texrat	2008-08-26 , 02:34
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I think OS2008 is a significant improvement over 2007... which was an improvement over 2006... which was an improvement over 2005. More to come.

And it's funny how half the users scream for more finger-friendliness while the other half protests against it. Damn... if only all people could be pleased, all the time (cue famous Louis Armstrong song).

Originally Posted by benny1967

bad news.

after all, the "finger friendliness" was what started this thread IIRC.

I like finger friendliness... but I would PREFER a rollback to CONTEXT friendliness...

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BoxOfSnoo	2008-08-26 , 02:54
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Originally Posted by Texrat

And it's funny how half the users scream for more finger-friendliness while the other half protests against it. Damn... if only all people could be pleased, all the time (cue famous Louis Armstrong song).

'You're the Tops!"? "Bess, You is my Woman Now"? Oh, I know, "A Fine Romance"! Yeah that one actually fits well.

Personally I'm happy to see strong feelings from both sides. Sometimes some peoples' preferences can be buried in a tumult of one-sided complaints.

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	Texrat	2008-08-26 , 02:59
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Originally Posted by BoxOfSnoo

'You're the Tops!"? "Bess, You is my Woman Now"? Oh, I know, "A Fine Romance"! Yeah that one actually fits well.

Personally I'm happy to see strong feelings from both sides. Sometimes some peoples' preferences can be buried in a tumult of one-sided complaints.

Agreed with troublemaker sentiment.

But you fail on the song. Come on, Snoo! "What a Wonderful World"!

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	mullf	2008-08-26 , 03:05
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Why not let the user set to stylus mode or finger mode? Bring back the finger/stylus recognition in case the user is using the other input method on occasion, but set the scrollbars, icon layout, etc., based on the mode setting. Seems common sense, right?

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	Texrat	2008-08-26 , 03:10
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^ what he said

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pataphysician	2008-08-26 , 03:22
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I agree with Texrat, overall I like os2008. I think the ideal solution would be to make a finger oriented UI and a stylus oriented UI and the user would have a setting to choose which they like to use. In some situations I like using finger, but more often than not I use stylus.

edit, mullf beat me to it.

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	GeneralAntilles	2008-08-26 , 03:35
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Originally Posted by mullf

Why not let the user set to stylus mode or finger mode? Bring back the finger/stylus recognition in case the user is using the other input method on occasion, but set the scrollbars, icon layout, etc., based on the mode setting. Seems common sense, right?

Hey, instead of waiting for Nokia to get its head out of its own keester (yeah, right) why don't we help (read: coerce

) fiferboy integrate finger detection into Personal Menu?

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	Texrat	2008-08-26 , 04:19
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Can he be bribed?

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	benny1967	2008-08-26 , 07:27
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Originally Posted by gene.cash

... a capacitive touchscreen

So what exactly is that? (not having seen a JesusPhone)

A touchscreen that cannot be used be an ordinary stylus (or pen or whatever is at hands), but only registers a special stylus-like device or bare fingers. From a usability point of view, it's absurd.