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#31
Do you know you can test your apps WITHOUT the autobuilder, do you? Just asking.
 
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Originally Posted by jebba View Post
Also this "for free" thing is a bit disingenuous. That's like Red Hat saying to the Fedora community "hey, you're getting this for free STFU".... I mean, this is greatly in Nokia's interest--they aren't being Mother Teresa here...

-Jeff
No Nokia is not mother Teresa, but neither is it telling anyone in the community to shut up either. The idea is that Nokia works together with the community to make maemo.org a good place to be.

As for the new hardware.
There has been a lot of work in both getting new hardware and setting it up. Just be patient a small while more. No promises before Christmas (everyone wants to eat Christmas lunch without watching the server stats on an N900 under the table), but services will start moving to new hardware soon.

The downside is that setting up causes further slowness on the old servers as they need to be copied and synced to the new ones. The decision was not to shut down for a week to do that, but try and keep things running all the time.

The people who do this work (set up and run maemo.org) are not Nokia employees, they are community members who get sponsored to do this work.
 

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#33
Originally Posted by javispedro View Post
Do you know you can test your apps WITHOUT the autobuilder, do you? Just asking.
Yes, and I do. It's much easier for *other* people to test them when they are in the maemo repositories though.

I have my own repository set up here:

http://www.freemoe.org/users/jebba/README

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Originally Posted by jebba View Post
Is there any more info you can point to about this outage? If you know something about it, why not post it to the -devel mailing list or something reasonable?
I'm not part of the maemo.org team and I'm not payed by Nokia, so these kind of announcements are not my job, unless someone ask me to do it. If you read carefully my post you can see that I agree with you in the lack of announcements, I already raised my voice, but you can also do it in the MLs, since I suspect that most of the people responsible for the servers don't read TMO in a regular basis.

As for the complains a bit more of patience and gratitude is welcome, we're in the same boat here, those kind of problems are not normal and should be fixed soon, our infrastructure and resources is too small for the community growth, patience please.
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Jebba: please join the maemo-developers mailing list if you haven't yet. You will like it.
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Originally Posted by twaelti View Post
Jebba: please join the maemo-developers mailing list if you haven't yet. You will like it.
Ya, just actually subscribed. I have been reading the archives though.

Thanks,

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Originally Posted by VDVsx View Post
In the front page: Hot topics -> Current Sprint
It's been fixed now...

As I wrote I would have edited it myself if I could (I too would like to contribute to the community in any way I can, given the time)...
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Originally Posted by DrWilken View Post
It's been fixed now...

As I wrote I would have edited it myself if I could (I too would like to contribute to the community in any way I can, given the time)...
You can edit the wiki, even without log in.
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Originally Posted by VDVsx View Post
You can edit the wiki, even without log in.
I apparently didn't notice the EDIT link on the right (for the whole page), but only the edit links on each section...
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Originally Posted by jolouis View Post
However in the mean time the argument to say "the autobuilder is preventing more applications" is in my mind not accurate at all. Okay, so let's say worst case scenario your app takes 2 days to build in autobuilder... If that's your product release/app release, then 2 extra days for people to wait doesn't exactly mean "there are less apps available because of it". Sure things get backed up a bit, but you're still talking about final releases here.
It's certainly been more than two days. I've been trying on & off to get something built or even uploaded. One time it did make it through the build but somehow never quite made it to maemo.org/packages--only one subpackage fully appeared, the others never did. I tried over & over to merely upload the thing. It has failed in the builder a number of times though through no problem in the packaging just because something else was going on with the builder. With a functioning system I would have uploaded far more packages by now. /me trying again...

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