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2010-01-23
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#32
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Originally Posted by mikec
Thanks, I get sound on avatar now but I still cant play mkv's
The codecs were refreshed especially for PR1.1
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2010-01-23
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#33
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Originally Posted by *Sonic*
Not sure if its MKV per se or the encoding of the vid. Bug in PR1.1 cant play files with chapter markings. Have you tried to re-mux using avidemux. V quick so is pretty painless.
Thanks, I get sound on avatar now but I still cant play mkv's
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2010-01-23
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I havent tried anything other than a couple of different mkv's not even sure if they have chapter markings in them
Media player just says it cannot play that format, its no biggie though
Media player just says it cannot play that format, its no biggie though
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2010-01-23
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#35
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If your encoding something for the masses you should be doing it in a manner that it works with the device out of the box. A format that is supported and a codec that is supported.
In other words these should be in a .MP4 container encoded with .H264 & .AAC
Let me know what trailers are not encoded that way that were already posted and I can redo them so they play properly without you needing to take a risk installing the extra codecs package, I dont have it on my device I have read a few too many post about issues caused by it.
In other words these should be in a .MP4 container encoded with .H264 & .AAC
Let me know what trailers are not encoded that way that were already posted and I can redo them so they play properly without you needing to take a risk installing the extra codecs package, I dont have it on my device I have read a few too many post about issues caused by it.
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2010-01-23
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Originally Posted by ViciousXUSMC
So do it. Search here and wiki and be amazed how difficult its to some people even install some program to pc and try to find out what settings they should put there.
It would be a pretty quick and painless process to convert anything from the apple site to N900 format. I can do a batch process and cook out like 20+ super high quality trailers while I go eat a sandwich.
thing is who really puts these on there device? I watch a movie trailer one time to see if I like a movie and only because I want to check if I like it or not, I dont tote it around to view multiple times for no reason.
Well downloading your Ironman 2 trailer now to see what it looks like and what kind of codec settings you used.
I agree on using 800px wide if you want max quality, its the native for the N900 screen. No need for 30fps though, cinima is not run @ 30fps and recoding an original source that is only 24fps to 30fps is rather barbaric and pointless, infact you may lose quality there since your not going to create any new frames just by increasing the frame rate and the interpolation between the frames could get jarred up. Even in a best case you just keep the same quality but made it harder to render and the file size larger.
I assume you just used baseline 3.0 H264 profile? or have you found the N900 can handle some of the more advanced features of the codec?
I did following with dark knight
-> Demux audio to wav with mplayer (binary codecs included)
--> careful here because we have to downmix 5.1 or 6.1 proprely to stereo. Have to listen carefully wav because explosions might clip.
-> Open video and external audio in avidemux 2
-> Resize with msharpen
-> Unsharpen mask to sharpen picture (because of resize)
H.264 settings from wiki.
->made mp4 file
--> goto start if result doesnt satisfy
Unfortunately i have found that kmplayer plays video files smoothly when default media player sometimes gets jerky. I do not know why because both use same engine but there is bug report already about this issue.
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Ironman2 and dark knight and couple of other trailers have worked for me from first firmware trought both firmwares. I have not yet tested avatar
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2010-01-23
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no need to worry about audio slender, just demux and remux the original. Remember AAC is a lossy format, so it already lost some of its original data and quality. If you transcode from lossy to lossless (AAC to WAV) you only increased the file size and then when you code that again to a lossy codec your going to lower the quality even more than it was originally.
Since all the Apple trailers are just using AAC LC at an acceptable bitrate its going to play on the N900 as is without any transcoding or additional loss of quality.
I have no problems contributing to your little thread, but your attitude is way off base, this stuff is not hard so no need to toot your own horn for knowing how to do it and infact you still have a lot to learn.
Since all the Apple trailers are just using AAC LC at an acceptable bitrate its going to play on the N900 as is without any transcoding or additional loss of quality.
I have no problems contributing to your little thread, but your attitude is way off base, this stuff is not hard so no need to toot your own horn for knowing how to do it and infact you still have a lot to learn.
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2010-01-23
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Originally Posted by ViciousXUSMC
*facepalm*
no need to worry about audio slender, just demux and remux the original. Remember AAC is a lossy format, so it already lost some of its original data and quality. If you transcode from lossy to lossless (AAC to WAV) you only increased the file size and then when you code that again to a lossy codec your going to lower the quality even more than it was originally.
Since all the Apple trailers are just using AAC LC at an acceptable bitrate its going to play on the N900 as is without any transcoding or additional loss of quality.
I have no problems contributing to your little thread, but your attitude is way off base, this stuff is not hard so no need to toot your own horn for knowing how to do it and infact you still have a lot to learn.
I have found SOME trailers with 5.1 or 6.1 sound and downmxing is broken with current handbrake. Search doom9 for downmixing and normalizing audio.
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About attitude. You just said that you do not understand why someone would watch trailer from small screen again and again. Excuse me but how about if you chek your attitude first.
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2010-01-23
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I stated that I dont know why somebody would put a trailer on there phone, a simple statement and not directed at anybody. You can drop your childish he said she said drama act now and move on and make this a worth while thread. If you need to take it further send a private message.
You started the situation upon yourself by coming in here claiming the title of encoding god when really your just another normal user and reliant on the real experts to make a GUI for you.
So from your original post being the "quality control freak" you should know basic things like each time you encode a lossy format that you lose quality and since you have these "standards" you wouldnt be doing that.
Why do I need to know downmixing is broken with Handbrake? I dont use it. I compile my own custom x264 binary for 64bit encoding its 20% faster than the x86 binaries you can download and I run all the other tools directly from the command line so I can keep the leading edge on all the binaries with any dependency on a GUI.
MP4Box.exe
NeroAACEnc.exe
x264.exe
avisynth
Mkvmerge.exe
Thats most of what I use, hardly ever do I need something else.
I like GUI's its a great way to start and to learn, but once you get past that you start to do things yourself and learn a lot more.
Edit: Slender I thought you were the OP
had you two mixed up. I cant load anything on this forum right now its moving slower than free dial up service from my sega dreamcast 8 years ago.
I felt the OP had a really bad attitude, and then you kinda jumped into the same game. We can collaborate and learn from one another the goal of a forum like this, or we can go at each other throats and I never start the attack but I am always willing to counter attack like I just did at you.
Last edited by ViciousXUSMC; 2010-01-23 at 14:04.
You started the situation upon yourself by coming in here claiming the title of encoding god when really your just another normal user and reliant on the real experts to make a GUI for you.
So from your original post being the "quality control freak" you should know basic things like each time you encode a lossy format that you lose quality and since you have these "standards" you wouldnt be doing that.
Why do I need to know downmixing is broken with Handbrake? I dont use it. I compile my own custom x264 binary for 64bit encoding its 20% faster than the x86 binaries you can download and I run all the other tools directly from the command line so I can keep the leading edge on all the binaries with any dependency on a GUI.
MP4Box.exe
NeroAACEnc.exe
x264.exe
avisynth
Mkvmerge.exe
Thats most of what I use, hardly ever do I need something else.
I like GUI's its a great way to start and to learn, but once you get past that you start to do things yourself and learn a lot more.
Edit: Slender I thought you were the OP
had you two mixed up. I cant load anything on this forum right now its moving slower than free dial up service from my sega dreamcast 8 years ago.I felt the OP had a really bad attitude, and then you kinda jumped into the same game. We can collaborate and learn from one another the goal of a forum like this, or we can go at each other throats and I never start the attack but I am always willing to counter attack like I just did at you.
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2010-01-23
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Originally Posted by ViciousXUSMC
Well fact is that generalizations do hit somebody eventought you try to not direct them to specifically to anybody.
I stated that I dont know why somebody would put a trailer on there phone, a simple statement and not directed at anybody. You can drop your childish he said she said drama act now and move on and make this a worth while thread. If you need to take it further send a private message.
You started the situation upon yourself by coming in here claiming the title of encoding god when really your just another normal user and reliant on the real experts to make a GUI for you.
So from your original post being the "quality control freak" you should know basic things like each time you encode a lossy format that you lose quality and since you have these "standards" you wouldnt be doing that.
- Just copying aac didnt work
- Trancoding aac to aac with handbrake broken downmixing (speak was coming from left channel only)
- demuxed with mplayer but noticed that explosions were clipping/distorted ( noticed only when listen on high volume)
- and after finding some Mplayers settings about downmixing i found that downmixer seems to use correct algorithm when combaining all surround channels and there was no clipping.
Why do I need to know downmixing is broken with Handbrake? I dont use it. I compile my own custom x264 binary for 64bit encoding its 20% faster than the x86 binaries you can download and I run all the other tools directly from the command line so I can keep the leading edge on all the binaries with any dependency on a GUI.
MP4Box.exe
NeroAACEnc.exe
x264.exe
avisynth
Mkvmerge.exe
Thats most of what I use, hardly ever do I need something else.
I like GUI's its a great way to start and to learn, but once you get past that you start to do things yourself and learn a lot more.
Hmmm. And i´m quite sure that hydrogenaudio forum has some other toughts about aac goodness. But transcoding is generally bad that i agree.
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