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Originally Posted by Rauha View Post
Things aren't going really peachy for Nokia in rest of the world either. Even in Europe, during the last 12 months smartphonephone marketshare 50%->40%, mobilephones 40%->32%. Or my personal experience of seeing the explosion of Samsung and Apple phones on random people in Espoo...
yes I know that. the only thing that pisses me off with that usa-centricity is that it is the development country of gsm/3g networks.

a bit like starving ethiopian would give you advice how to drift with hummer....
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If they switched to Android, I wouldn't ever buy from them again. This is a personal preference, but it is my least favourite operating system.
I hate Google's crap. They should have stayed in the search engine business.

If Nokia switched to Android, Windows Phone would remain the only sensible opportunity.
If Nokia switched to Android, I too would never buy from them either. Mostly because Android is already being implemented better by other companies who have proven themselves to provide far better care for their customers than Nokia has and provide ample physical presence in many of their markets.

I'm just saying that I don't think Nokia's problem is so much their operating system(s).
 

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It's really fabulous that you will be able to happily run Android on your N900 with Nitdroid and Nokia should do what it can to keep that flexibility in its super-phones.
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Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
android to non-touch devices. do I have to say more about that blog?

e: and did you notice the perspective?
O = ameeriikaa
. = rest of the world
Completely agreed.

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I'm just saying that I don't think Nokia's problem is so much their operating system(s).
Yes it is.
They make very nice hardware.
 

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Originally Posted by Venemo View Post
Yes it is.
They make very nice hardware.
Their software could be far better, but it's not the core problem. Their hardware is just okay. Their problem is also not the hardware. The problem is their business.
 

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theres no way the 'mighty' nokia corporation ane gonna use any other OS when they can develop their own, meego will spank everyone else, even tho im not very impressed with the 'phone' pics of meego ive seen so far, the netbook OS looked awesome, theyll deliver what people want, they just need to make sure it aint half baked like s60v5 and maemo5 were when released, or there screwed, surely they must have learned that over the past year with all the excitement of the n97 and then the total disaster of it crashing all the time, and still the n900 is missing a lot of standard features and is still buggy as hell, but its still the best device i can see on the market, because they gave me what i wanted, a phone i can personalise/mod
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
The problem is their business.
Very much this. I suspect that people in the Internet Tablet group, and the people who pushed MeeGo, are very well as frustrated with the Greater Nokia as we are. But there's not much they can do without driving the point to the bottom line, where the higher ups will see it.

To some degree, I think they have, but the battle is all uphill and this is only one step. After that it's up to people outside the administrative structure that can shake things up to do so.

That said, with MeeGo less attached to Nokia others might pick it up and run with it. Hopefully the "not owned by a company with a vested interest in where it goes" will lead to some inertia.
 

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That said, with MeeGo less attached to Nokia others might pick it up and run with it. Hopefully the "not owned by a company with a vested interest in where it goes" will lead to some inertia.
I hope with all my heart and soul that you're right and it gets enough openness and adoption to free itself from the same rotting carcasses running the show at Nokia that the maemo community has been anchored to for lack of openness and adoption.
 
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Why there are so many doomsayers about Nokia? Ok, Android might be fine and such, but there are people like me that prefer Maemo/Meego and we believe it might have even nore to offer in the future. We like GNU/Linux and we do lots more with it that we'd do with Android. If you prefer Android, fine, buy an Android mobile. But suggesting that Nokia should lose all its remaining credibility by adopting a competitor's OS is beyond all insanity.
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Why there are so many doomsayers about Nokia? Ok, Android might be fine and such, but there are people like me that prefer Maemo/Meego and we believe it might have even nore to offer in the future. We like GNU/Linux and we do lots more with it that we'd do with Android. If you prefer Android, fine, buy an Android mobile. But suggesting that Nokia should lose all its remaining credibility by adopting a competitor's OS is beyond all insanity.
What you want to believe is hardly my concern nor is it necessarily a reflection of reality. Most importantly, why do you feel that other people shouldn't have opinions or express what they believe/feel/observe/think/etc?
 
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