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2014-12-04
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Open terminal, select text, copy. Doesn't sound too difficult
Please show this ignorant user how to do it.
Originally Posted by pichlo
Oh my... Duh! Of course you need network, because how else will the phone download the terminal and other developer tools??
You need the network to enable developer mode. Chicken, egg?
99% of users will never enable developer mode, therefore it would be pointless to have all these tools preinstalled (which would mean all of that would have to be updated with each system update). Just a friendly reminder - you need network for downloading Media Player, Calculator, Clock, Mail, Calendar, ... as well.
Of course, I forgot, having network on a phone is something very peculiar these days
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2014-12-04
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Originally Posted by nodevel
How???????
open terminal, select text, copy. Doesn't sound too difficult
Originally Posted by nodevel
Duh! Please see the discussion in its entirety. The whole point was copying the network password somehow. So, to copy and paste the network password, you need to enable dev mode for which you need the network password. Do I really need to spell things out?
Oh my... Duh! Of course you need network, because how else will the phone download the terminal and other developer tools??
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2014-12-04
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Originally Posted by pichlo
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Copying the wi-fi password. I am hinting that having network (cellular) internet is not that peculiar nowadays.
Duh! Please see the discussion in its entirety. The whole point was copying the network password somehow. So, to copy and paste the network password, you need to enable dev mode for which you need the network password. Do I really need to spell things out?
EDIT:
I am just suggesting solutions to your questions, not trying to solve your scenario, because for myself, typing in the password on a keyboard (virtual or connected BT keyboard if there's not enough characters on the virtual one) is much user friendly than transferring a txt file over USB.
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2014-12-04
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Originally Posted by pichlo
You are correct that the "copy number" entry in the menu is disabled by default when the number is known.
Actually, I am on Uitukka. Still,
1) A short tap on an entry in the call list calls the number. Without a warning, which IMO is a bad design but one can learn to live with that.
2) A long tap brings a menu with "Send message", "Open contact card" and "Delete". All entries on my list are currently from known numbers so I apologize if there are more options for numbers not in the phone book but even if there is a "Copy phone number" option, why not for all entries?
However, here's an one-liner patch for you to enable it
Code:
[root@Jolla ~]# diff -u CallLogPage.qml.backup /usr/share/voicecall-ui-jolla/pages/CallLogPage.qml
--- CallLogPage.qml.backup 2014-12-04 11:58:26.179885538 +0200
+++ /usr/share/voicecall-ui-jolla/pages/CallLogPage.qml 2014-12-04 12:00:17.168318304 +0200
@@ -237,7 +237,6 @@
onClicked: openContactCard(person, model.remoteUid)
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MenuItem {
- visible: !privateNumber && !person
//% "Copy"
text: qsTrId("voicecall-me-copy")
onClicked: Clipboard.text = model.remoteUid
Originally Posted by pichlo
True. I cannot fully understand why it has been disabled.
3) To actually copy the number, I have to open the contact card for editing. A bit risky operation.
Originally Posted by pichlo
Well, answers to the previous questions may vary from whom you ask about it, I guess?
Whilst I don't mind editing a QML,
1) How was I supposed to know that this is what I have to do?
2) Where is that file?
3) What do I need to do with the file to enable selective copying? (OK maybe it is obvious once you know the aswers to questions 1 and 2.)
4) Is it what you expect the users to routinely do for things that should work out of the box?
How to find things, generally I use to grep for intresting keywords in the QML files. (remember, everything is located under /usr/share/ so you need not look elsewhere when you want to do UI mods to the system or applications)
Then, experimenting with changing things a bit in promisingly-seeming-locations and testing the results is what gets you results, and you learn a lot on the functioning and organization of the code.
You usually need to do "killall lipstick" after editing something to make Jolla to reload the UI components. If you break the UI, no problem just reverse your latest change and reload again. (this is why working in ssh is neat, you kan tweak the UI from your computer and at the same time safely test what the changes accomplish)
Mmmh, as for Q 4.), it depends. I do expect end users to tweak things by themselves. I do it to all devices that I own and use, whether it be computers, cameras, light-fixtures, cars, vacuum cleaners, airconditioning... you name it.
I do renovate and fix my home myself too, of course.
(and I have yet to encounter anything that works-out-of-the-box like I want it to work...)
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2014-12-04
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@eekkelund, @szopin, @juiceme: thank you, thank you, thank you! You are my saviours! Shame I can hit the Thanks button only once!
Last edited by pichlo; 2014-12-04 at 13:39.
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2014-12-04
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Originally Posted by aegis
Nope, probably not. I have a Galaxy S4 mini, and I had to install a third party file manager. Of course a terminal wasn't there, either.
My Nexus 7 came with neither and I don't temember seeing either on the HTC one of our kids had having either. She's since moved to an iPhone, which of course has neither. Is it a Samsung thing perhaps?
Only thing that came pre-installed was a "Home"-folder of sorts, something to browser images, music files, videos etc.
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2014-12-04
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Originally Posted by szopin
...which I think is the default. I can't remember changing it anyway.
Drag mode -> Select
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2014-12-04
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I never changed it either and it was set to Scroll. The reason I never epreimented with it was that the letter are so small I cannot read them. The first time I figured out what it says was from nodevel's post (#34).
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For that matter, I have not yet received an answer from juiceme (or anyone else) about how to copy a number from Phone or part of the text from Messages. All I have seen was, "of course you can do it, you idiot!"
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