I second that!
Bloody nicey-nice-guy Canadian types...
smarmy b-tards them all...
hoist them on their own petards I say!
o-ooh..that's me...

More humour ...
less fumour ...
[sure it doesn't make sense ..but it sounds good]

If you do not care and think this is stupid, why are you trying to hijack topic?
Please don't do that

I never said I didn't care...
I never said this was stupid
Considering what I said earlier...
I believe I'm dead on the money.
People need to calm down.
I've been very specific, exactingly so...concerning the reality of the situation...I stated such.
I believe also in injecting some humour to lighten things...
I don't believe I'm hijacking a thread...
if I had hijacked this thread...then mods ..supermods ..would have censored and / or informed me of such ..I am sure.
As far as censorship, moderators having to alter my posts or inform me of such, warn me of my behaviour, give infractions...
I have never...ever...violated any protocols of behaviour here which would warrant a mark ..excepting once when asked to curb and tone down my joy, enthusiasm, and giddy excitement over good news...

of course like anyone here I have been upset ..in my instance ..at a couple of fellow members...over their poor behaviour...but still..even still..never warranting ever a warning, censorship or infraction...
It boils down to respectful behaviour to one another...that's it.

So..back to your post there..
you are speaking for me now?
you are quoting me now?
then it is misquoting... and flat out falsehood based in zero.
Never did I say "I don't care..."
Never did I say "this is stupid..."
quite the opposite.

but I do believe in trying to lighten the attitude here.
If you wish to throw completely invalid accusations me of hijacking the thread... when I most definitely am not...in fact I have been on topic...
Then bring in a mod and let him or her explain how exactly I am hijacking this thread...how I have deviated from topic..and don't just stop with me...but everyone else here who is not only talking about the laws of genteel behaviour here.. but are trying to lighten the tone of this angry-angry thread as well

otherwise throw baseless accusations elsewhere or better don't throw baseless accusations anywhere at all.

...and stop moderating posts for any slightest hint of an excuse.

I guess it's appropriate that I put my views across lest my own viewpoints are presumed to be something else.

Personally, I have used the edit posts function in the rare instances of needing to delete links to warez, add notice to the OP etc with edit reason clearly stated and/or a [MOD EDIT] tag. I have always been against editing people's words because it ruins the spirit of openness.

In cases where posts are unacceptable I prefer deleting them with reason instead of editing them. While others may not see the reasons for a post deletion the author indeed can see it from the user profile page. Here I am conflicted because I find it unfair to shame someone publicly with reasons for post deletion as the post could have been published in an unwitting moment.

Very interesting take on it all, but what when user has a 'cause' and mod has vendetta against said user? If you are afraid of shame of that user you can always make posts/thread deletions acceptable by said user, if they feel no shame showing for all: this post was deleted because of religious reasons, ed sucks, we all vi here (or emacs, hope you get it)

still, keep current modding scene, don't look into opening up what goes behind it (this is not about mailboxes (yet)), users just loathe the power users, unfair, we can run 10 articles on you down-users being clueless and deleting any disagreeing post here (because), just because, even public modlogs won't fix it fully

I think that this "fear" of vendetta from our mods ....
especially our guys....
who take their job seriously...
is about as probable as my G.P. (doctor) of 15+ years ..
suddenly becoming a psychopath.
I don't think it something to worry about.
I haven't ever seen an abuse of privilege or power by a mod. here.
Some may say different ...but I doubt the veracity of such claims.
As has been stated many times before...if such an occurrence took place or there was a dispute 'tween poster

and mods. ...

then the supermod is sent in to clean things up ..


crap...these are the moddest mods ...

actually lookin at the post now...
I don't wanna be a poster boy...
I wanna be one of those slick mods

Shield of a thousand mirrors actually is a thing, goddamit

szopin,

Is the jalyst - ZogG issue being discussed here or the issue of editing posts more generally? I gave you my take on the general issue and in the event of a vendetta (though it's rare to see such) the user reports to the admin and he can undelete the posts too so it's not as big an issue as you think it may be. The worst thing is the post is missing for a few hours but you can be damn sure if a mod goes on a vendetta spree the admin and/or other mods would surely not stay silent once it's brought to their attention.

Also why is this sounding more like a us vs them thread? Mods are normal users with some powers to keep the place clean and tidy and not another elite or special group of people that you are making it sound like. This is TMO, a place where I think most of us are sane adults so can we please try not to create a divide where there is none?