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#392
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Originally Posted by Neon Samurai
If at any time you find that SD is not showing any ssu update, do this, then check app manager again.
I'm going to try updating the internal flash install, fanoush's initfs then the SD in that order first though.
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2008-10-02
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Sorry if this has been answered before but is there a reason Nokia can not turn Maemo into a true rolling distro rather than instead of a mostly rolling distro with kernel and init flashing? Is that a hardware design issue that could go way with the next tablet platform?
I must admit, I've been spoiled by "apt-get dist-upgrade" on larger little iron's
I must admit, I've been spoiled by "apt-get dist-upgrade" on larger little iron's
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2008-10-02
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Originally Posted by Neon Samurai
The whole boot process is changing in Fremantle.
Sorry if this has been answered before but is there a reason Nokia can not turn Maemo into a true rolling distro rather than instead of a mostly rolling distro with kernel and init flashing? Is that a hardware design issue that could go way with the next tablet platform?
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2008-10-02
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Originally Posted by Neon Samurai
There was further discussion after that post, so that's the wrong one to respond to.
I get update notifcations regularily. I don't reboot often except when getting the wifi nic back out of permiscuous mode so I can connect to wireless again. I regularily use offline mode when not near trusted wireless also. I figured the update notifier was simply using a date stamp from the last check to try again every day or week.
You can also just open the package manager and hit the update button though.
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2008-10-02
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
its starting to look as if fremantle is more "toss the whole thing and start over from scratch" then "fix what appears to be broken"...
The whole boot process is changing in Fremantle.
could be a good thing, could be bad (and im no optimist when it comes to tech companies, or just about any large organization in general).
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2008-10-02
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The way I see it, it's more "toss all the things that are Nokia's own concoction and have not been adopted more widely"; AFAICT, we're still keeping Matchbox (not Nokia's invention) and Hildon (Nokia's invention, but is adopted). Not strictly true, of course; we're still dumping kdrive, which is not Nokia's; but you get the idea. Maybe it's just the idealist/optimist in me, but it looks like they are trying to fix the non-(supposedly)-"value adding" uniquenesses, which is a good thing.
Of course, the cynical might just say they're trying to have more of their stuff taken care of by upstream projects, so they have more man-hours to put into breaking stuff from upstream...
Of course, the cynical might just say they're trying to have more of their stuff taken care of by upstream projects, so they have more man-hours to put into breaking stuff from upstream...
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2008-10-02
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Cheers, I can live with it until then. Now I have to go read over Ari's keynote.
The whole boot process is changing in Fremantle.
Now that I have my N800 back, I'll be using that as a test platform before changing my N810 which will make this sort of thing smoother. First test will be updating internal, boot menu, SD, boot menu and see if that does it. My particular illness enjoys rebuilding an OS from scratch each major version but it would be nice to avoid it a little easier on my PDA. The issue seems like it will take care of itself in v5 so one more recloning won't hurt me.
Now, if the Ruby folk would hurry up and get Gems working with the new version. I could use the update all or apt-get upgrade blindly then. Until then, I think configuring apt to not upgrade the ruby package through the applicable config file will fix that.
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2008-10-02
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
The short answer may be a PICNIC issue; problem in chare not in computer.
Er? Why in the world would you need to reclone to the SD card after updating the initfs? :\
This last update, I broke the wifi under the SD boot by taking a few update packages indavidually instead of finishing the job all at once. Since rebooting.. no wifi connectivity.
The previous update seemed to update ok but then consistantly hung on boot with the process bar about half way across so that was a recloning fix too.
I basically have to update the internal flash install and the SD install and have not yet had luck with the kernel and initfs update packages. As it seems to work for others, I think the issue is my aproach more than anything else. It would also be easier if I wasn't stubburn about how I did my cloning rather than just using the clone package or scripts available (I like my mounts under /mnt instead of two temporary root folders).
I often learn these things the hard way but, like security, if I don't break it then how am I to know how to fix/harden it?
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2008-10-02
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Originally Posted by gemniii42
I could be mistaken but I thought the internal flash block the factory default setup sits on was 512 meg because 256 seems a bit small. I tried to confirm on mine here just now but it's booted of the SD and it's been a long while since I've booted the internal flash.
How did you get 512meg-non-removable-intarnal-flash?
Is that an upgrade I missed?
Now, the internal SD non removable and limited to 2 gig.. if that is really the N800's removable SD slot under the plastic shell, me and a rotary tool may be getting an internal SD upgrade. I haven't had the guts to look into that beyond theory yet though. The only thing I missed between the N800 and N810 was the two removable allowing the device to max out around 8*2 = 16 gig of SD storage.
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You can also just open the package manager and hit the update button though.