Originally Posted by iJanne

both sides of an equation

Originally Posted by jjx

I would just like to remind everyone that 99% of all phones are rubbish in most respects. Possibly 100%, but I'll give the benefit of doubt

Ever bought or played with a phone where everything works just right?

Or even one where you didn't find annoying design flaws in the first day of using it?

Or even one that has never crashed on you while using it?

Personally I've never found a phone that doesn't have all of the above faults.

N900 buyers are likely to have high expectations. It's expensive, it's shiny, it's marketed (if you call obscure viral marketing with no posters in any phone shops marketing ) as a super all round device that makes you go Wow! Certainly the videos have lots of people saying wow a lot and how cool and new it is.

Yes, Joe Public will find aspects of the phone disappointing or annoying, and sometimes dealbreakers, but don't forget they will be comparing with other phones they have used before, and other phones which are in the market now that they try out.

None of the current crop of expensive smartphones are all that brilliant really. They all have annoying and disappointing issues.

So look at the whole package, and decide which set of highs and lows you can live with.

When choosing a phone I always recommend imagining how you'll feel after a month with each device, when the annoyances and disappointments don't both you so much, and you've seen more of how the device helps you do what you want, and perhaps do some new things. The first few weeks are always a different experience, where every little annoyance stands out a mile, and the potential hasn't been discovered. Try to imagine how you'll feel when you're used to getting the best out of it, working around the foibles, and - in the case of Maemo and it's direct competitors - installing alternative apps.

Which device actually lets you get done what you want to do? Which will you enjoy using, when you're had a month to get used to, and gotten over the disappointments because it's only a computer-phone, not your fantasy device.

All phones suck. Don't believe any hype

Originally Posted by jjx

I would just like to remind everyone that 99% of all phones are rubbish in most respects. Possibly 100%, but I'll give the benefit of doubt

Originally Posted by My-Symbian.com

Maybe people reporting performance or stability related issues should mention what is the hardware ID of their devices. There have been quite many different hardware versions of the N900, at least when it comes to protos. But maybe also the final units have different hardware versions.

When you download the N900 flasher and the latest firmware and you unpack the .bin image of the firmware with flasher, you will see that there are separate packages for different hardware buillds and that there are something like TWENTY different hardware builds supported by that firmware, ranging from 2101 to 2020 or so. And there were even more hardware versions before that, for example my prototype was 1501. The final unit is 2101.

Hardware ID can be checked in e.g. /proc/component_version

Maybe it'll turn out that there are some hardware differences between units and that's what causes that some people have problems and others don't?

So maybe the fanatic fanboy's unit simply has different hardware and that's why it is not affected by issues some other people have, and not because he is a fanatic fanboy?

Originally Posted by jjx

Btw is there any way to change the title of this thread by merging it with another?

iphone (blah, blah...) iphone .. iphone (blah, blah...) iphone... iphone

Originally Posted by fphillips

For anyone who doesn't know how to make playlists - read page 74 of your manual.

Originally Posted by MontyBravo

This is a bit of a odd statement, All the phone I have owned within the last 4 years I have been happy with. Yes all phones have issues as does all software and hardware.

this does not make them rubbish. But if the features which are billed as the reason for buying the device do not work properly this is a major problem. And it should not be released if it does not work.as promised..