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switch-hitter	2011-08-04 , 19:45
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Originally Posted by rm42

With Android, they would have to pay $15 per device to MS. With WP7 they will just have to pay $14.99.

PC manufacturers actually make a profit from installing Windows because other software companies pay them to pre-install lite/demo versions of their products (McAfee / Norton, Photo thingy, etc...) and that more than offsets the M$ license fee.

Maybe they'll want to expand that scheme to WP7

	danramos	2011-08-04 , 22:11
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter

PC manufacturers actually make a profit from installing Windows because other software companies pay them to pre-install lite/demo versions of their products (McAfee / Norton, Photo thingy, etc...) and that more than offsets the M$ license fee.

Maybe they'll want to expand that scheme to WP7

And THAT will sell a lot of phones--because it's the "value add" crapware that people LOVE to have on their phones.

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MoJo	2011-08-04 , 23:29
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As a WP7 user, I must say the branded carrier crapware is already present

but same can be said for Android.

Ayle	2011-08-05 , 00:14
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Originally Posted by MoJo

As a WP7 user, I must say the branded carrier crapware is already present but same can be said for Android.

As a fellow WP7 user, at least one of the MS guidelines was that bloatware could be easily uninstalled like the rest of the user downloaded applications instead of having it deeply embedded like they have it on Android.

Milhouse	2011-08-05 , 05:05
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Originally Posted by droitwichgas

The new Nokia WP7 phone is rumoured to save the same WP7 OS as any other WP7 phone, how is that different from Android? Just more bull from Elop.

If Nokia do ever have any influence over M$ in the future by then nobody will care anyway, if iOS & Android keep on increasing market share as they are at present.

Plus, Nokia will be contributing their IP (ie. Nokia/Ovi Maps) to the WP7 pool which then becomes available to all other WP7 vendors - HTC, Samsung, LG etc. - further reducing any exclusive "differentiation" Nokia can bring to WP7. Having a "Carl Zeiss" camera isn't going to stop people buying a sweet dual-core Android device, or buying the cheaper HTC/Samsung WP7 devices with their perfectly good point-and-shoot cameras.

The expectation is that Nokia Maps won't even make it in time for the Mango release, and that Nokia will be shipping bog-standard Mango on it's Compal-manufactured WP7 device. Yes, it won't even be making the first WP7 phone itself but has been forced to outsource production to someone else. What a shocking mess.

The Nokia share price dipped below $5 to $4.90 in after market New York trading - it's lowest price since early 1997.

Milhouse	2011-08-05 , 05:08
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Originally Posted by jo21

no terminal gtfo.

the only reason n900 turned awesome was because users picked it pieces CSSU.

s40 with harmattan UX will only sell to the ignorant about this

Qt is the platform, it shouldn't matter to end users what OS their device runs - they only need to know that the more they pay for the hardware, the better/more advanced features they will get (S40 budget/feature phone, Symbian mid-range, MeeGo high-end). Heck, you could even throw Android and WebOS into that mix. All these devices could be running Qt, the only differences being package management and re-compilation of any binaries for each platform (much of which could be automated, possibly even eliminated).

This was (almost) the original Nokia plan that - I'm pretty sure - Microsoft did all they could to kill off since Qt would have been yet another significant threat to their mobile aspirations, and perhaps by extension in the longer term their desktop development business.

	volt	2011-08-05 , 06:43
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As for the stock, this is about to get ugly. Nokia follows the general stock trend and is down to

5.02

-0.26, or 1/20, only since yesterday. Don't buy. Don't buy anything. If this goes on for a few days...

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	Dave999	2011-08-05 , 12:05
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It's Elop fault that all markets drops like a stone.

25 minutes US jobs numbers...will see what the market an nokia stock do after that.

gerbick	2011-08-05 , 14:04
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Originally Posted by Chuck Norris

It's Elop fault that all markets drops like a stone.

25 minutes US jobs numbers...will see what the market an nokia stock do after that.

171,000 added jobs, unemployment dropped slightly to 9.1%. I'm sure somebody will read more into it, so we'll have another loss today.

And Nokia's stock will invariably be hit.

	danramos	2011-08-06 , 00:10
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Originally Posted by gerbick

171,000 added jobs, unemployment dropped slightly to 9.1%. I'm sure somebody will read more into it, so we'll have another loss today.

And Nokia's stock will invariably be hit.

Wow! NO WAY! Nokia stock went up .23 today to 5.25!!
But.. Awwwww.... that trend!