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2010-09-27
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This is an ATOMIC BOMB (at least from my perspective).
http://androidandme.com/2010/09/phon...ndroid-tablet/
It seems that the Galaxy Tab employs the Amtel maxTouch touch sensors. These are the same touch sensors that are featured in the Galaxy S phones, the HTC Incredible, and the EVO. Apparently Samsung chose these sensors because of their superlative speed, accuracy, resolution blah, blah, blah.
That's not the exciting part. This is:
Apparently these sensors are well equipped for styluses input! Because of their extremely high sensor density (28 times compared to one of their closest competitors -- or so they say) and fast response, this allows the sensor's algorithm to EASILY discern, for example, the tip of a stylus for accurate stylus input.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXV7CitGLQo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m9xoCeKDsw&NR=1
The bottom line? It may be possible to have active-digitizer like pen-input functionality on the Tab! AWESOME!
The resistive fanbois should like this: apparently you can use the device with nails, or gloves on! Weird! Don't ask me how they're doing that with capacitive tech (and it is capacitive according to their site literature). The product information video (below) shows it tracking with gloves on -- a thin biking glove and a THICK mit! It must be a very sensitive capacitive sensor array!
Here's a promo video for maxTouch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK_9S0lZjTM
Here's a product introduction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TnSDeS2pTA
Bring it on! If I can do pen-input on the Tab, this is hands down the best consumer convergence device to date.
http://androidandme.com/2010/09/phon...ndroid-tablet/
It seems that the Galaxy Tab employs the Amtel maxTouch touch sensors. These are the same touch sensors that are featured in the Galaxy S phones, the HTC Incredible, and the EVO. Apparently Samsung chose these sensors because of their superlative speed, accuracy, resolution blah, blah, blah.
That's not the exciting part. This is:
Apparently these sensors are well equipped for styluses input! Because of their extremely high sensor density (28 times compared to one of their closest competitors -- or so they say) and fast response, this allows the sensor's algorithm to EASILY discern, for example, the tip of a stylus for accurate stylus input.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXV7CitGLQo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m9xoCeKDsw&NR=1
The bottom line? It may be possible to have active-digitizer like pen-input functionality on the Tab! AWESOME!
The resistive fanbois should like this: apparently you can use the device with nails, or gloves on! Weird! Don't ask me how they're doing that with capacitive tech (and it is capacitive according to their site literature). The product information video (below) shows it tracking with gloves on -- a thin biking glove and a THICK mit! It must be a very sensitive capacitive sensor array!
Here's a promo video for maxTouch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK_9S0lZjTM
Here's a product introduction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TnSDeS2pTA
Bring it on! If I can do pen-input on the Tab, this is hands down the best consumer convergence device to date.
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2010-09-27
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The maxTouch also senses when hands are close. So, reaching for the device can activate it. This means, that hover events can also be captured!
I'm excited to see how developers use this technology, as it seems phenomenal!
I'm excited to see how developers use this technology, as it seems phenomenal!
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2010-09-27
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More research on the maxTouch.
This is from the mXT224 data-sheet:
It seems that this sensor IC is well-equipped to handle a task like passive stylus input, and thanks to sensor density and size/shape recognition algorithms, it could effectively eliminate other input -- eg. the pad of the hand or other fingers -- during writing. It also has a very fast response rate, which is a boon for pen input. I would guess that there would have to be a library written to bring pen input to the Tab (depending of course, on what facilities the drivers offered), but if this could be done, then stylus input could be achieved without having to hover your hand over the writing surface to eliminate unwanted input. 100% win.
I would cream my pants for even a simple writing app that had this functionality, though would *love* it if a forward thinking developer incorporated this into a library that could be shared across applications.
Anyone know of such a project? Am I the only one that's excited at the prospect of paper-like pen input?
This is from the mXT224 data-sheet:
The mXT224 uses a unique charge-transfer acquisition engine to implement the QMatrixTM capacitive sensing method patented by AtmelŽ. This allows the measurement of up to 224 mutual capacitance nodes in under 1 ms. Coupled with a state-of-the-art XMEGATM CPU, the entire touchscreen sensing solution can measure, classify and track a single finger touch every 4 ms if required.
The acquisition engine uses an optimal measurement approach to ensure almost complete immunity from parasitic capacitance on the receiver inputs (Y lines). The engine includes sufficient dynamic range to cope with touchscreen mutual capacitances spanning 0.5 pF to 5 pF. This allows great flexibility for use with Atmel\u2019s proprietary ITO pattern designs. One and two layer ITO sensors are possible using glass or PET substrates.
The main AVRŽ XMEGA CPU has two powerful, yet low power, microsequencer coprocessors under its control. These combine to allow the signal acquisition, preprocessing, postprocessing and housekeeping to be partitioned in an efficient and flexible way. This gives ample scope for sensing algorithms, touch tracking or advanced shape-based filtering. An in-circuit reflash can be performed over the chip\u2019s hardware-driven two-wire interface (I2C-compatible).
The mXT224 represents a step improvement over competing technologies. It provides a near optimal mix of low power, small size and low part count with unrivalled true multitouch performance.
I would cream my pants for even a simple writing app that had this functionality, though would *love* it if a forward thinking developer incorporated this into a library that could be shared across applications.
Anyone know of such a project? Am I the only one that's excited at the prospect of paper-like pen input?
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2010-09-27
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FANTASTIC NEWS!
It appears that an app for the iPad, penultimate, features palm rejection! That's right, you can rest your hand on the tablet and write with a stylus without ending up with a mess:
http://jkontherun.com/2010/05/22/ink...alm-rejection/
The penultimate palm rejection is supposed to work well, and I can't help but think that coupled with the maxTouch in the Tab, would provide a great experience!
This gives me TONS of hope!
Here's some penultimate info:
http://jkontherun.com/2010/05/22/ink...alm-rejection/
http://blog.cocoabox.com/post/620270628/a-handy-update
It appears that an app for the iPad, penultimate, features palm rejection! That's right, you can rest your hand on the tablet and write with a stylus without ending up with a mess:
http://jkontherun.com/2010/05/22/ink...alm-rejection/
The penultimate palm rejection is supposed to work well, and I can't help but think that coupled with the maxTouch in the Tab, would provide a great experience!
This gives me TONS of hope!
Here's some penultimate info:
http://jkontherun.com/2010/05/22/ink...alm-rejection/
http://blog.cocoabox.com/post/620270628/a-handy-update
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2010-09-27
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt
Interesting. All seems a bit too good to be true but lets wait and see.
This is an ATOMIC BOMB (at least from my perspective).
http://androidandme.com/2010/09/phon...ndroid-tablet/
It seems that the Galaxy Tab employs the Amtel maxTouch touch sensors. These are the same touch sensors that are featured in the Galaxy S phones, the HTC Incredible, and the EVO. Apparently Samsung chose these sensors because of their superlative speed, accuracy, resolution blah, blah, blah.
That's not the exciting part. This is:
Apparently these sensors are well equipped for styluses input! Because of their extremely high sensor density (28 times compared to one of their closest competitors -- or so they say) and fast response, this allows the sensor's algorithm to EASILY discern, for example, the tip of a stylus for accurate stylus input.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXV7CitGLQo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m9xoCeKDsw&NR=1
The bottom line? It may be possible to have active-digitizer like pen-input functionality on the Tab! AWESOME!
The resistive fanbois should like this: apparently you can use the device with nails, or gloves on! Weird! Don't ask me how they're doing that with capacitive tech (and it is capacitive according to their site literature). The product information video (below) shows it tracking with gloves on -- a thin biking glove and a THICK mit! It must be a very sensitive capacitive sensor array!
Here's a promo video for maxTouch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK_9S0lZjTM
Here's a product introduction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TnSDeS2pTA
Bring it on! If I can do pen-input on the Tab, this is hands down the best consumer convergence device to date.
There has not been any mention or showing of the rumoured blue tooth stylus pen for the tab so maybe it does not exist at all. Hopefully it does though but maybe just not coming out at the same time as the keyboard and other accessories we have seen officially revealed.
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2010-09-27
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Here's another solution with smartNote for the iPad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IhaloTanhQ (at the 4m:00s mark)
They use a 'palm rejection' box, where input is ignored if the palm is wresting on the screen! This is actually quite a nice approach to rejecting input, and it seems to work quite well!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IhaloTanhQ (at the 4m:00s mark)
They use a 'palm rejection' box, where input is ignored if the palm is wresting on the screen! This is actually quite a nice approach to rejecting input, and it seems to work quite well!
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2010-09-27
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Originally Posted by etuoyo
The stylus does exist (it's featured on the accessories page of the Galaxy Tab flash site), though there's very little information about it other than a tiny picture -- it looks like a standard passive stylus. The bluetooth stylus is still a mystery, but I'm hopeful for some working solution!
Interesting. All seems a bit too good to be true but lets wait and see.
There has not been any mention or showing of the rumoured blue tooth stylus pen for the tab so maybe it does not exist at all. Hopefully it does though but maybe just not coming out at the same time as the keyboard and other accessories we have seen officially revealed.
Thankfully, this is Samsung we're talking about, so the passive stylus will probably have very good performance (or so I would hope!).
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2010-09-27
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt
Interestingly, so this would have the same accuracy as a resistive touch screen? Wow, even more reason to get a Tab then.
This is an ATOMIC BOMB (at least from my perspective).
http://androidandme.com/2010/09/phon...ndroid-tablet/
It seems that the Galaxy Tab employs the Amtel maxTouch touch sensors. These are the same touch sensors that are featured in the Galaxy S phones, the HTC Incredible, and the EVO. Apparently Samsung chose these sensors because of their superlative speed, accuracy, resolution blah, blah, blah.
That's not the exciting part. This is:
Apparently these sensors are well equipped for styluses input! Because of their extremely high sensor density (28 times compared to one of their closest competitors -- or so they say) and fast response, this allows the sensor's algorithm to EASILY discern, for example, the tip of a stylus for accurate stylus input.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXV7CitGLQo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m9xoCeKDsw&NR=1
The bottom line? It may be possible to have active-digitizer like pen-input functionality on the Tab! AWESOME!
The resistive fanbois should like this: apparently you can use the device with nails, or gloves on! Weird! Don't ask me how they're doing that with capacitive tech (and it is capacitive according to their site literature). The product information video (below) shows it tracking with gloves on -- a thin biking glove and a THICK mit! It must be a very sensitive capacitive sensor array!
Here's a promo video for maxTouch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK_9S0lZjTM
Here's a product introduction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TnSDeS2pTA
Bring it on! If I can do pen-input on the Tab, this is hands down the best consumer convergence device to date.
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2010-09-28
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man
It would be interesting to see how accurate the maxTouch screen especially compared to resistive input. I'm also very interested to see how fine the tip of the official stylus is.
Interestingly, so this would have the same accuracy as a resistive touch screen? Wow, even more reason to get a Tab then.
Paper-like pen input (only the tip writes, although other things may touch the surface) is a *huge* selling feature for me.
I will likely get the official stylus is it's somewhat reasonably priced, and if no reviews pop up.
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