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2013-05-22 , 21:00
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Originally Posted by kingstu View Post
I keep thinking about Jolla and 'the other half' and it occurs to me that this is for DPhone and the Chinese market. All the promos about customizing a phone to suit you seem exactly what a mobile phone and accessories store would want to have. Their margins on the accessories are probably greater than their margins on the cellphones. (Look at how all the Hello Kitty merchandise sells at ridiculous prices.)
We know that the demo had a Chinese app store loaded as well as the Jolla store. Imagine being able to buy the Jolla device in the DPhone retail shop and then being able to pick whatever color "other half" you want also. Imagine being able to load custom content at the time of purchase. Imagine being able to get tickets or songs and videos added easily. You could enter the shop and tap your phone against an in-store device and getting "freebies" transferred to your phone...and while you are in the store you can get "up-sell" to buy another "other half" or other accessories while you are there. Brilliant!
Agreed, but why only DPhone? Other stores also have greater margins on accessories and slim on the phones themselves afaik. The only problem with this I believe is: which artist is going to go for a deal: how about we put your album on a special cover for a device that is just starting and might fail terribly (radiohead maybe? pirate party band? Stallman band, if it ever becomes a thing is going to boycott their closed UI that's for sure)? Also, do chinese consumers really differ that much from european ones in their needs? Chinese don't like extra battery/uptime? Extra sensors, storage, flash/lenses, IR etc (they might want different HWKB I guess, not a specialist in chinese, not sure if qwerty suits them, but if DPhone would invest in making hwkb cover, burning different chars on top of the buttons seems trivial)
 
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2013-05-22 , 21:04
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http://sfietkonstantin.wordpress.com...e-a-lot-but-3/

good read
 

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2013-05-22 , 21:04
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Originally Posted by willi6868 View Post
They already have a maps application on their devices but didn't show it yet...
That might be the stock Nemo Mobile maps application, which is very very basic - even more than the cuuren modRana QML interface (which also already runns on Nemo a thus should also run on Sailfish). :-)

BTW, note the icon on the right - looks like a terminal emulator. :-)
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2013-05-22 , 21:26
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Originally Posted by MartinK View Post
That might be the stock Nemo Mobile maps application, which is very very basic - even more than the cuuren modRana QML interface (which also already runns on Nemo a thus should also run on Sailfish). :-)

BTW, note the icon on the right - looks like a terminal emulator. :-)
I saw FingerTerm running on The Jolla myself Monday

thought they didn't let me run any useful command

But I don't remember if it was started from that icon, or another one :P
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2013-05-22 , 21:33
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#465
Boy its been a while, but why dont they just make the hardware and license Harmattan from Nokia?

All Harmattan needed was new hardware.
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2013-05-22 , 21:50
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@balisingh: Because Harmattan is a dead platform. Its key components are owned by Nokia and not developed anymore.

Sailfish is based on the community developed and open Mer OS. And it's different from Harmattan. Jolla didn't try to clone it, even though they inherited some inspiration from there for sure.
 

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2013-05-22 , 22:10
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Originally Posted by faenil View Post
I saw FingerTerm running on The Jolla myself Monday

thought they didn't let me run any useful command

But I don't remember if it was started from that icon, or another one :P
Well, Nemo has two terminal emulators by default - the classic MeeGo terminal and Fingerterm. Could be they also have both.
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2013-05-22 , 23:27
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Originally Posted by shmerl View Post
@balisingh: Because Harmattan is a dead platform. Its key components are owned by Nokia and not developed anymore.

Sailfish is based on the community developed and open Mer OS. And it's different from Harmattan. Jolla didn't try to clone it, even though they inherited some inspiration from there for sure.
Good point, I guess they can license it but cant develop it further. I was counting on that.
Will it have QT/QML? Duh http://merproject.org/ Does this mean Apps will port easy from N9?
How about good HTML5 support for the lack of apps? duh http://merproject.org/
What kinda of security for protecting your personal information?
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2013-05-22 , 23:33
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Why would anyone license something that you can't even develop, when you can create your own system?

Sure Sailfish has Qt. Go read about it: https://sailfishos.org/about.html

Regarding security and information protection - we'll see. So far this information is not published.
 

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2013-05-22 , 23:59
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Originally Posted by balisingh View Post
Boy its been a while, but why dont they just make the hardware and license Harmattan from Nokia?

All Harmattan needed was new hardware.
Harmattan was essentially maemo with a bunch of MeeGo API's bolted on to satisfy the technical requirements to make it MeeGo "compliant" and thus allow Nokia to refer to it as MeeGo.

as a bridging OS, it was still held back by the closed source binary blobs that were present in it's predecessors (along with the MeeGo DE/CE builds) and the non upstream supporting forks of key components.

Even with the massive bugfixing extravaganza that the last PR brought, there are still a lot of issues that weren't fixed.

Mer has worked to resolve a lot of the inherent OS (middleware) issues that Harmattan had.
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