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#471
Hi,

I'll try to catch up, but it may take some time.

Re Pure Maps icon in https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...&postcount=454 : notice similarity with WhoGo Maps icon. Not sure whether we can use it, probably should get thumbs up from @otsaloma. Taking into account that WhoGo Maps is archived, its probably OK though.

Re backgrounds and loosing data under the buttons: I suspect, that its a way to go. Have had exactly the same concerns as @Fellfrosch (loosing data) and @mosen (can't see thinner lines) have, quite schizophrenic situation. Problem is that maps have icons as well and we may want to visually distinguish the clickable command icons from map layer. Google, Here, and Apple use backgrounds despite loosing ability to show data below. This is a strong hint that the designers and larger scale UX studies suggested it.

I presume, we will end up with the following list of buttons:

* menu
* search
* route
* compass
* center
* map layers
* zoom in
* zoom out
* scalebar

While scalebar will probably stay as it is, its actually a button allowing you to toggle autozoom on/off.

The three buttons above scalebar in the list are not there yet, but will probably get implemented in future (zoom ones for simple zooming while in navigation mode mainly).

So, we do have a largish list and that's why it was important to get the minimal view mode allowing you to choose the "favorite" ones and keep them on all the time.

With the buttons, assuming that they will get backgrounds, there are few important technical aspects:

- we would probably set background/foreground for each map separately. It looks to me that the theme colors are not good for it and we better use the same approach as used for the current street name.

- buttons can consist of three areas, nested into each other.
1: clickable area, the largest, to ensure that its easy to click
2: background area (circle, rectange with roundish corners)
3: icon, in the middle of area 2
currently, 1 and 3 are already there.

We can probably add shadow for buttons as well, if needed/desired. Would have to see if its possible with oldish Qt/QML in SFOS though.
 

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#472
Originally Posted by Fellfrosch View Post
Using a bold black background we are losing infos
Originally Posted by XOleg View Post
But maybe it's better without enormous black background for smartphone?
With only one click/tap to the map the the icons are moved off screen if the user needs them out of the way? Couldn't you say the same about the whole landscape view then?



Originally Posted by Fellfrosch View Post
Alll in all I'm not so sure if we really need a complete new icon set. I looked at the in app icons and they looked to me quite consistent.
I do not like the vertical size difference for one.

 

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#473
There is nothing to say against backgrounds, but in my opinion they shouldn't be opaque but halt transparent. So you can achieve both: Don't lose data (even so it is harder to see them) with better readability of the icons. Bringing it to the edge, the background transparancy could be adjustable via settings.

I already pointed out, that @mosen did already make an, at least for me, nearly perfect proposal:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=378
(Here for me also the search icon was great - especially with breaking out from that background )
 

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#474
Originally Posted by mosen View Post
I do not like the vertical size difference for one.
That's why I said, the center button in menu view doesn't work for me as well.


The others are OPTICAL of the same size.
 

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Originally Posted by mosen View Post
With only one click/tap to the map the the icons are moved off screen if the user needs them out of the way? Couldn't you say the same about the whole landscape view then?
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You don't speak about the landscape view, but about the Navigation mode (also black background in portrait mode). Here for me the navigation instructions are the most important thing. So the black background is for me absolutely no problem.
 

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#476
Originally Posted by Fellfrosch View Post
I already pointed out, that @mosen did already make an, at least for me, nearly perfect proposal:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=378
(Here for me also the search icon was great - especially with breaking out from that background )
Breaking out is not trivial to do, would much more prefer background surrounding icon fully. For simplicity on my side
 

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Forgot to mention earlier: with the backgrounds enforced, we can probably use smaller icons for buttons.
 

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#478
i think it need start from the p.m main icon, like removing the point of center, then leave just the world, it which be the same visual and bettttter.
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Originally Posted by carlosgonz View Post
i think it need start from the p.m main icon, like removing the point of center, then leave just the world, it which be the same visual and bettttter.
This is not part of the discussion anymore, because we already discussed it. @Rinigus will check with Otsaloma if we are allowed to use this icon:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=454
If so we will switch to it.

More important is the in app design and here basically the usability and consistency of the design.
 

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Oh, I just noticed a minor issue. Using a light theme, the text 'Pure Maps' on the cover is almost invisible. This is partially because light themes aren't optimised yet (lots of light colours on light backgrounds), but looking at Jolla's own applications, they usually use white/black text on their covers instead of the theme-dependent colours, so I think it would make sense to do it the same way for Pure Maps. OSM Scout Server already uses white/black text on the cover, too.
 

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