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2010-09-28 , 15:41
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It looks as though the accessories are coming! Here's a small pouch for the Tab available via Amazon for $20:
http://www.amazon.com/DURAGADGET-Res...5688117&sr=8-8


This is pretty neat, though I would love it if it were more fashionable and had a strap (I'm thinking more of a masculine sash than a man-purse.. lulz). I can foresee the time where I'll only need to carry the Tab with me, my trusty BT stylus, and a cable for charging, and I'd be ok with an ultra compact bag (especially in the winter when I've got a jacket on).
 
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2010-09-28 , 16:41
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt View Post
I can only imagine that developers in general may be reluctant to target MeeGo with Android, iOS, and BBOS to consider. Of course, this is all hearsay.
Considering that none of those will appear on Nokia devices any time soon, whereas Qt will make software available across all Nokia devices within the next year I suspect that, unless they're a totally US-focused developer, they may target at least Qt if not MeeGo.

I just want another device like the N900, only with a better interface and better hardware.
 

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2010-09-28 , 17:14
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Originally Posted by wmarone View Post
Considering that none of those will appear on Nokia devices any time soon, whereas Qt will make software available across all Nokia devices within the next year I suspect that, unless they're a totally US-focused developer, they may target at least Qt if not MeeGo.

I just want another device like the N900, only with a better interface and better hardware.
I would be very interested in some great MeeGo devices as well, and have high hopes for the OS.

I see a great opportunity for Android/MeeGo tablets to cross-pollinate as they both run the linux kernel at the core. I would be very interested in seeing some projects that bring X, QT, etc (or whatever MeeGo display manager is used) to Android, and Dalvik, android sdk, etc to MeeGo. Although this wouldn't be useful for the general consumer, it would unify two large islands of developers and liberate much code!

I also like some of the coming web technologies like NaCl and PNaCl (that I have talked about before). These also are tools for platform agnosticism leveraging the ubiquity of the web and the advantages of write-once-run-on-arm-or-x86 () programs run securely at native speed and with many useful facilities (eg. openGL es 2.0) for the development of rich applications. The coolest part of NaCl is that it's not only platform agnostic, it's also toolkit agnostic, so if it can be compiled to a binary, it can run on a system. The downside of a system like this, is that shared libraries become a thing of the past, and all functionality must be contained within the distributed binary -- or at least from the origin domain.
 
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2010-09-28 , 18:41
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Here's a fun article outlining what's known, speculated and wished for, in the upcoming Android3 (gingerbread) OS update:
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog...d-the-desired/

Just to let everyone know, the Tab is officially confirmed to receive a Android3 update!

What are you thoughts?
 
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2010-09-28 , 20:39
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Tablet Wars

I didn't realize the BB tablet was getting a dual-core A9 and 1 GB of RAM. [Darth Vader]Impressive.[/Darth Vader]
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2010-09-28 , 23:09
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People are going "Meego"/gaga over the tab on this thread!!

If nothing else was coming I would be all over it but I am intrigued by this 7" iphone styled ipad 2 with voice rumours...
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2010-09-28 , 23:38
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I keep wondering if MeeGo will be arriving with too little and too late?
Things are snowballing between the 3-4 main camps as they engage with continuous cluster**** among themselves.
Like I said before, Meego's biggest competitor will be Android.

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt View Post
MeeGo will find itself in a highly competitive market, and I, like you, am curious to see what it will introduce that will be enough to differentiate it from its competitors.

I can only imagine that developers in general may be reluctant to target MeeGo with Android, iOS, and BBOS to consider. Of course, this is all hearsay.
They really should figure out a way to create a situation where code can be written and deployed onto all the different platforms (and don't say java).
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They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
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2010-09-29 , 02:39
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They really should figure out a way to create a situation where code can be written and deployed onto all the different platforms (and don't say java).
Well a VM really is the only way to do it without cross compiling. So your choices are pretty much every scripting language, Java, and Microsoft's CLR. But then you toss in the mess of platform non-specific toolkits, so you might as well just use something like Qt and a good set of cross compilation tools.
 
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Originally Posted by wmarone View Post
Considering that none of those will appear on Nokia devices any time soon, whereas Qt will make software available across all Nokia devices within the next year I suspect that, unless they're a totally US-focused developer, they may target at least Qt if not MeeGo.
Qt may even be relevant for Android (and the Tab discussed here): http://code.google.com/p/android-lighthouse/
 

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Well a VM really is the only way to do it without cross compiling. So your choices are pretty much every scripting language, Java, and Microsoft's CLR. But then you toss in the mess of platform non-specific toolkits, so you might as well just use something like Qt and a good set of cross compilation tools.
That will soon change with PNaCl! This is why the project is so wonderful. It compiles code to ISA agnostic 'bit code' (using LLVM no doubt :P) to allow for native translation on the host. It targets the most popular implementations IA-32, ARM, and x86-64. In short, this allows for compile once to an intermediate 'bit code,' translate into native code, and run on the host at native speed! It also does this in a highly secure way for its intended web use.

This is very similar to a VM with a JIT (arguably the same), the difference being that the chosen language is not fixed (likely reason for the 'bit code' moniker).

Here's a link to a document that describes it well:
http://nativeclient.googlecode.com/s...site/pnacl.pdf

From the article:
PNaCl: Portable Native Client Executables

Google's Native Client technology uses software fault isolation (SFI) to enable the execution of untrusted native code inside a web browser, giving web applications greater access to the
performance of the client machine while avoiding the security problems with current infrastructure for plugins.

While the operating-system neutrality of Native Client tends to encourage good practices with respect to ISA portability, the burden of building, testing and deploying a program on all supported hardware platforms---currently IA-32, ARM and x86-64---lies with the developer. This arrangement makes it too easy for the developer to fail to support one or more ISAs, and tends to create a barrier for future new ISAs, threatening the portability
promise of the Web.

This document describes the design of PNaCl (pronounced "pinnacle"), a suite of tools for building, testing, and distributing Native Client programs in an instruction-set neutral format. PNaCl uses the Low-Level Virtual Machine (LLVM) bitcode format to represent ISA neutral portable executables compiled from code written in a variety of languages including C and C++.

The PNaCl design allows some flexibility in deciding where translation to native machine code occurs. By supporting client-side translation to the client's native instruction set, PNaCl reduces the burden on the developer, enabling support of new instruction sets without recompilation from the source. As PNaCl is layered cleanly on top of current ISA-specific NaCl implementations, the small trusted code base, source language neutrality, and safety properties of the system are preserved.

PNaCl, which will be open-sourced, is still at an early stage of development; we welcome feedback and suggestions on how its design might be improved.
 
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